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Watching those newborns suffocate to death on a table over the course of the day was something I’m never going to forget. If the IDF thinks they can move past this without a lot of scrutiny, I hope they’re dead wrong.
That really got me too. How can you kill brand new babies and then be like “We’re in the right here”
Israel is trying to pull a “if the glove doesn’t fit, you must acquit” sleight of hand here.
Even if it were a Hamas command center, that does not justify withholding food and medicine from the hospital.
Even if it were a Hamas command center, that does not justify conducting their brutal attacks on civilians elsewhere.
Even if it were a Hamas command center, that does not justify destroying the infrastructure that civilians require in order to survive.
They are going to make sure there is a command center there, because their entire narrative has become that if Hamas uses civilians as human shields (even if there is literally not enough space for civilians to go anywhere else anyways), then Israel is justified killing civilians.
That’s is false on its own, but more importantly, they are not only attempting to kill Hamas, they are also attempting to kill and displace large numbers of civilians, and we know this because their own government ministries and employees are putting together reports and doing news interviews about how they should displace Palestinians from Gaza.
They would not be making those reports and statements if they thought the government was against it; that would be career-ending. They feel comfortable making those reports and statements precisely because they know that their government is on board with that. They are getting people comfortable with hearing it, for when they actually do it.
I saw them taking a BBC journalist in and pointing out a “Hamas Stash”, it was like one gun, some shoes, and a pile of blankets. If that’s the stuff you think you’re fighting against then you’re ok, calm down, stop sniping medical staff.
I loved/hated how it was like a “my little combatant” kit, with a gun, uniform, and snacks all packed in a little duffle bag.
Either it was Israel bringing those in for the photo op, or it was Hamas leaving those to make it look like Israel carried them in for a photo op.
Look! there’s crackers! danger!!
I’m guessing they won’t find it in the UN school they just bombed either.
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Drone footage of tunnel entrance on hospital grounds:
https://videoidf.azureedge.net/b9216285-5630-44f4-87a0-7f8f543de11fIsraeli hostages being led inside the hospital:
https://videoidf.azureedge.net/a72d538a-f733-45bc-a045-e6b432578160
https://videoidf.azureedge.net/7bf213e9-9301-436f-9a37-66fe5461a6c6More pictures of Hamas terrorists with hostages inside hospital:
https://idfanc.activetrail.biz/ANC191120236486845465465Map of where hostages’ bodies were later recovered:
https://idfanc.activetrail.biz/ANC19112023684648516But don’t let the truth detract from those fuzzy feelings of righteousness :)
What are you seeing here? There’s a small shaft that looks a long way from the hospital, maybe a well, maybe a sewer, nothing to suggest it’s anything untoward. There’s some people walking through some buildings, then a map with writing on.
Where are you seeing evidence here? Where are you seeing any of the things you’re claiming?
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That looks like a pretty standard utility tunnel. The video conveniently stops at the “blast door” which isn’t actually weird because electricity is hella dangerous. I would be willing to bet the most dangerous thing found behind that door is a surge arrestor.
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The hostages being led inside the hospital isn’t great, but it looks to me like they needed medical attention. What would you prefer happen? If I were a hostage and needed medical attention I would much rather live in a world where the hospital cooperates with the “baddies” to provide that medical care and do the “recovery” later, wouldn’t you?
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Those videos show living hostages. If the goal is to recover the hostages then why is the IDF only recovering bodies?
Based on that evidence you provided I would offer the counter-narrative that it appears that Hamas is trying their best to keep the hostages alive while the IDF prefers them martyred.
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IDF videos have shown only modest collections of small arms, mostly assault rifles, recovered from the extensive medical complex.
That suggests an armed presence, but not the sort of elaborate nerve centre depicted in animated graphics presented to the media before al-Shifa was seized, portraying a network of well-equipped subterranean chambers.
This exception, spelled out in article 19 of the fourth Geneva convention, states specifically: “… the presence of small arms and ammunition taken from such combatants and not yet handed to the proper service, shall not be considered to be acts harmful to the enemy”.
“Israel has failed to provide anywhere even close to the level of evidence required to justify the narrow exception under which hospitals can be targeted under the laws of war,” said Mai El-Sadany, a human rights lawyer and the executive director of the Tahrir Institute for Middle East Policy, in Washington.
Countries such as the UK, Germany and most importantly, the US, have resisted calls for a ceasefire on the grounds that Israel’s actions constitute legitimate self-defence.
John Kirby, the White House national security spokesperson, framed the alleged Hamas facility there as a command “node” rather than a centre, and a possible weapons store.
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