Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.
Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.
If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)
ED ZITRON
FROM THE TOP ROPE
I don’t get it, how is every one of the most touted people in the AI space among the least credible people in the industry.
Like literally every time its a person whose name I recognize from something else they’ve done, that something else is something I hate.
In the collection of links of what Ive has done in recent years, there’s one to an article about a turntable redesign he worked on, and from that article:
The Sondek LP12 has always been entirely retrofittable and Linn has released 50 modular hardware upgrades to the machine, something that Ive said he appreciates. “I love the idea that after years of ownership you can enjoy a product that’s actually better than the one you bought years before,” said Ive.
I don’t know, should I laugh, or should I scream, that it’s Ive, of all people, saying that.
Further evidence emerging that the effort to replace government employees with the Great Confabulatron are well at hand and the presumed first-order goal of getting a yes-man to sign off on whatever bullshit is going well.
Now we wait for the actual policy implications and the predictable second-order effects. Which is to say dead kids.
Am I the only person not impressed by veo3? Yeah there are more details yada yada, but the details are still wrong.
The view of the garbage fractal isn’t improved by zooming deeper into the Bullshit-Mandlebrot Set.
Holy hell all the examples I found made me seasick. I am apparently physically incapable of watching veo3 videos.
that is because you can both read and write. the average social media slobbyist does not care. clevage, beats, teeth and consumption…
let us talk about what the difference between animals and humans is. some say it is the art we create. and i wonder if birds have a lower quality output that let’s say taylor swift or jk rowling. have doubts. maybe we are not so fucking special and 99% of media we consume is trash? did you ever check out spotify…they’ve proven ppl love slob by faking companies for jazz labels. and deezer has proven comsumer over 30 dont even access any new music. humans love slob. and your incapability tells me you think you were consuming prime rib before while it was just another industry slob.
Hard disagree, as much as I loathe JK Rowling’s politcal ideas, and the at-times unecessary cruelty found in the HP novels, it still shaped a large part of the imaginary world of a generation. As beautiful as bird songs are (who the hell refers to birdsong as “output”), this simply cannot be compared.
Yes commercial for-profit shareholder-driven lackadaisical “art” is already an insult to life and creativity, but a fully-or-mostly automated slop machine is an infinitely worse one.
Even in the sloppiest of arts I have watched, the humanity still shines through, people still made choice, even subjected to crazy uninispired didacts from above, the hands that fashion books, movies, music, video-games, tv-shows still have—must have—room to bring a given vision together.
I think people DO care.
I don’t know exactly what you wanted to say, if you wanted to express despair, cynisism, nihilishm or something else, but I would encourage you not to give up hope with humanity, people aren’t that stupid, people aren’t that void of meaning.
this is painfull. you compare lovecraft to rowling…sorry…no. she didnt come up with a backstory for most characters. hell no.
Oh no! I wasted my time on Troll. Typical.
just because your arguments dont stick doesnt make no one a troll. you hallucinate “this simply cannot be compared.” and then overvalue humans again and again.
Even in the sloppiest of arts I have watched, the humanity still shines through,
No. again you declare something art without the proof what makes this art. It is not art if someone is able to play a beat on old cans. It is a profession or skill. And that is all I ever saw from jkrowling,dua lipa and all that other human slob. please provide an argument where the sloppy art happend and what made it art. “Made by humans” != art
Dua lipa on the other hand is absolute slob - it made the existing art worse. Not only do all songs sound the same, they are also not original. Yet the fanarmy will use exactly your way of reasoning. pathetic. Do dua lipa fans care? so far they obviously havent…it is all old products from the industry revamped with studio1 and a human with zero personality. People DO care, right?
Looks like shit and it’s mostly entirely static because anything with a little more movement would look like complete piss.
I saw an ad for a local gin festival generated with veo3 and now I’ve sworn off gin
Sobering!
Some quality sneers in Extropic’s latest presentation about their thermodynamics hardware. My favorite part was the Founder’s mission slide “e/acc maximizes the watts per civilization while Extropic maximizes intelligence per watt”.
is Extropic now claiming to have actually done anything?
Apparently they are going to ship their development kits sometime later this year. He still sounds confusing AF to me and my BS indicator is going off all the time. He also makes incorrect statements (around 9 minutes in) such as
Neural nets came from energy-based models
which makes 0 sense historically. According to Wikipedia, EBMs were first introduced in 2003.
I’m not going to watch more than a few seconds but I enjoyed how awkward Beff Jezos is coming across.
OT: Welp. Think interview went well. Just waiting for them to check references (oh god) and I should know whats what by Monday.
Good luck! I’m rooting for you.
I hate I’m so terminally online I found out about the rumor that Musk and Stephen Miller’s wife are bumping uglies through a horrorfic parody account
https://mastodon.social/@bitterkarella@sfba.social/114593332907413196
Midnight Pals is pretty great.
So far away we wait for the AGI
For the billions all wasted and gone
We feel the pain of compute time lost in few thousand days
Through the sneering and the flames we carry onLoose Mission Impossible Spoilers
The latest Mission Impossible movie features a rogue AI as one of the main antagonists. But on the other hand, the AI’s main powers are lies, fake news, and manipulation, and it only gets as far as it does because people allow fear to make themselves manipulable and it relies on human agents to do a lot of its work. So in terms of promoting the doomerism narrative, I think the movie could actually be taken as opposing the conventional doomer narrative in favor of a calm, moderate, internationally coordinated (the entire plot could have been derailed by governments agreeing on mutual nuclear disarmament before the AI subverted them) response against AI’s that ultimately have only moderate power.
Adding to the post-LLM hype predictions: I think post LLM bubble popping, “Terminator” style rogue AI movie plots don’t go away, but take on a different spin. Rogue AI’s strength’s are going to be narrower, their weaknesses are going to get more comical and absurd, and idiotic human actions are going to be more of a factor. For weaknesses it will be less “failed to comprehend love” or “cleverly constructed logic bomb breaks its reasoning” and more “forgets what it was doing after getting drawn into too long of a conversation”. For human actions it will be less “its makers failed to anticipate a completely unprecedented sequence of bootstrapping and self improvement” and more “its makers disabled every safety and granted it every resource it asked for in the process of trying to make an extra dollar a little bit faster”.
Interesting (in a depressing way) thread by author Alex de Campi about the fuckery by Unbound/Boundless (crowdfunding for publishing, which segued into financial incompetence and stealing royalties), whose latest incarnation might be trying to AI their way out of the hole they’ve dug for themselves.
From the liquidator’s proposals:
We are also undertaking new areas of business that require no funds to implement, such as starting to increase our rights income from book to videogaming by leveraging our contacts in the gaming industry and potentially creating new content based on our intellectual property utilizing inexpensive artificial intelligence platforms.
(emphasis mine)
They don’t appear to actually own any intellectual property anymore (due to defaulting on contracts) so I can’t see this ending well.
Original thread, for those of you with bluesky accounts: https://bsky.app/profile/alexdecampi.bsky.social/post/3lqfmpme2722w
New Blood In The Machine: The “AI jobs apocalypse” is for the bosses
Ok I have to say, I despise aella but as a promiscuous woman I completely fail to see what’s supposed to be the problem with this particular form of play. That people like having casual sex? That they have slut pride? What.
I probably passed the 100 mark myself several years ago, I’ve hooked up with girls with much more obvious slut tattoos too, and we’re all antifascist anarchists. Is this community ok with sneering at public sexuality now?
The only thing I found vaguely mid in that X is using a tattoo gun rather than scarification, branding, or at least stick-and-poke. But I don’t kink-shame people for being casuals.
oh, no, to be clear: this isn’t about the sex/sluttiness - I have no issue with that at all. in a more general sense (over the wider set of things aella), her positioning herself as a “sex researcher” but often using that to bash specific groups or put out a specific narrative, that is far more problematic
but regarding this specific thing, tho: the “forced a tattoo on me” bit specifically, and all the rationalists doing their weird quasi-intellectual arguing with everyone who asks questions. the “forced” wording feels … intentionally bait&switch? presumably (…hopefully?) there’s mutual consent here, so it’s a fucking choice to go frame the event that way
That’s very much the language my play partners use online, though? I totally post banter like “that submissive was so blanked out that I took advantage of them by doing X”, to which they’ll reply “implying I didn’t evily manipulated you into doing that in the first place”, and so on. This is so commonplace in my communities that I failed to even understand what could be the problem before you pointed it out. I mean, “I forced my famous domme to mark me as a trophy as her #100 simp”? How would you exactly force (non-kink sense) someone to tattoo you anyway, and if you did and were unwise enough to brag about it, presumably the microcelebrity in question wouldn’t like and retweet it? I took it to mean “I was so into the idea of being marked, I’m glad she agreed to my pestering”, and I would bet money if any of my people talked in that exact wording, that’s what everyone would take it as. I mean, otherwise I would probably have been arrested for the frequency of times I say “bye everyone gonna tie someone up and do unspeakably cruel things to them” and whatnot
I think in this thread it’s not “this thing is gross because it involves sex stuff”, it’s “this sex stuff is made gross by the involvement of aella and co, who we understand to have fundamentally different and incorrect ideas about ethics both in general and specific to sex”
I’m imagining the same statement from a different person, on a platform that is not Xitter, about a sex partner who is not Aella.
(thinks)
Pierre Menard, author of the Kink-ote
Gotta say, I’m not much of a JLB head, so I don’t fully understand this (would love an explainer!). At first glance I thought this was a Menards reference and super didn’t understand.
“Pierre Menard, Author of the Quixote” is a story about a man whose passion project is rewriting Don Quixote, that is, arriving at exactly the same text as Cervantes, but from his own experiences. The narrator quotes the same line from both and observes that the remark by Cervantes is empty rhetoric, while the statement by Menard alludes to a whole school of philosophy that did not exist in Cervantes’ time. So, “Though they are verbally identical, Menard’s is infinitely richer.”
I wasn’t going for a deep-lore reference, just a bit of silly wordplay about the title.
Personally I like sex work and amateur tattooing better when they aren’t part of some convoluted attempt at rationalist virtue signalling on social media. Honestly it’s kind of weird that you landed on disapproval of promiscuity as the reason anyone here would find the happy couple sneerable.
Not strictly related to the OP but fuck kink-washing sfba rationalism, at the very least the attempted normalization of non-con sex play in a subculture as inundated with cult dynamics as them should be fair game.
I cannot understand the reason y’all find the couple sneerable, as I look at that tweet and see something I very much would have done to one of my partners if they asked, and the language used by the bottom as the same language my partners might have used to describe the activity. If anything it’s very much on the tame side, for our standards. Promiscuity is me trying to understand what is it that’s so sneerable in the first place. Is it just “lol sex thing weird”? Is it “you’ll regret your tattoo when you get older”? Me and my girls have done so much more intensely weirder sex things and more risqué tattoos. I expect to be ridiculed for it by like, cishet right-wing men, but to find that type of attitude here was shocking.
Like, “virtue signalling” as in the thing that rats accuse us of doing every time we have a motivation they cannot comprehend such as basic empathy, right? As in the rationalist’s stereotypically verbose euphemism for what previous generations of misogynistic male nerds used to call “attention whoring”? Is that the sneerable thing then, that people like showing off when they do an unusual sex thing? Because if so I have like, years of mastodon flirty banter y’all can go sneer at, if we’re branching out from “nerdy fascism bad” to “kink on main bad”.
are you aware of what discussion group you’re posting this to
The guy goes by the handle RatOrthodox, calls rationalism his religion in the replies, seems kind of a cult-brained ideologue anyway based on his other tattoos, and went out of his way to make boinking aella into a public achievement/trophy thing.
This is just from the OP, I bet I could find any number of additional absolutely ridiculous things about him if I bothered with his twitter feed (edit: someone else did). Basically he seems like sneer incarnate, and if rationalists ever stormed the capitol building I bet he’d be the one with the face paint and the horned fur hat giving interviews.
Virtue signaling is not really interchangeable with attention whoring, it’s when you specifically (and usually clumsily) want people to notice that you are part of an ingroup, and in this case the ingroup definitely isn’t just people who like amateur tattooing and horny post on main.
Maybe I should explicitly note that unless this turns out to be another aella publicity stunt she does seem pretty incidental to the whole thing and her only fault appears to be being attractive this type of weirdo in the first place, which I’m not blaming her for.
Think you are right, and tbh I didn’t read this as a kink thing but more some weird glorifying Aella as some sort of important cult leader thing (and misread it and assumed it had to do with the flowchart event, and not this (which I should have noticed was wrong as there were less than 100 people involved in that, for which a ‘I was nr 100’ is quite odd to me (and fits into the whole cultleader vibe))). A reason why I only focused on the guy myself.
And you are totally correct that people sneer on Aella way to much just because she is {a woman, sex worker, a bit strange, unapologetic about being a sex worker, has sex the wrong way, {more weird reasons unrelated to her being part of the ‘we should do eugenics!’ crowd}} (pick any that apply). And have mentioned this before in other places. (oddly enough this caused somebody on bsky to just go full anti sex worker, so that was an easy block at least). But yes you are right to call us out on this.
My stance is that I hate Aella because she exploits her life experience to be a disgusting misogynist and it is morally correct to kinkshame unpleasant heterosexual men who associate with the rationalist sex cult. I’m not interested in other people’s hangups beyond that.
This is more on Aella Cult than on her tbh.
And didn’t Aella and also Grimes have a come to jesus moment when they realized they hung out with a lot of bad people. Guess nothing came from that. (That part of them is always worse than these just a bit off antics they pull).
And didn’t Aella and also Grimes have a come to jesus moment when they realized they hung out with a lot of bad people
I would give this at least -9600 credibility points. neither of them are whoopsie-daisy’ing into these scenes and crowds, they both knew what and who
Sorry I was being a bit too vague because I didn’t have any proof ready. But here it is. It is them covering their asses if there might be a fallout, a non-apology equivalent, as there has been no changes or dropping of names/extremist behavior since, it is all just vague vibes.
Cringe but my god the horde of buttmad nazis force me to be on weirdo & girl girl’s side
Personally I have more questions about a Rationalist having an anarcho-communist flag tattoo.
anarcho-communist flag, username RatOrthodox, hangs out with eugenicist iq-anon types, somewhere on the longtermist scale. Has unblocked replies from a person who fell into all the alt-right signifiers and who is calling this ‘Jewish’ (anti-semitism and a holocaust joke, classy. If I sneer any harder I will start to look like Scott on that recent video).
I see now he’s also got a supply and demand tattoo*? I don’t fucking know. Maybe he thinks red and black is the antifa flag. Maybe he got it for sexy humiliation purposes. Maybe it’s faded blue ink.
Yeah okay. Boring!!! You suck!!!
I have so many questions, stuff like, do you know what laws of nature are? (also, see the weak link between supply and demand and capitalism, various non capitalist systems also have supply and demand curves. “im not economically illiterate, just ideologically”). And 13? Wtf is wrong with your parents that they allowed that? At least my earlier ‘wtf why is he hanging out with neo-nazis’ has been answered.
E: also note the dead plant in the tattoo in progress pics. (An orchid I think).
I don’t know what it is with capitalists and needing to prove to themselves they’re aligned with the natural order. I’m a marxist but I can’t imagine calling the TRPF a “law of nature”. It would be embarrassing!
*
(I know there are, like, dozens of “scientific communist” diamat weirdos, but for the most part they have rightfully been tied to a tree and left in the 20th century.)
I think it comes down to a deflection of the inherent cruelty of the system. Part of the structure of capitalism is that some people are going to suffer unjustly because your ability to get the resources you need to survive is gated behind your ability to either hold capital or provide value to capitalists. You don’t have to look far to find examples of people who are either physically unable to do so or who find that their proverbial cheese has been moved by economic forces beyond their control or understanding, and now the terms of their economic and social existence are wildly different and less favorable.
By comparison, evolution by natural selection relies on having more children than the environment can support and having a significant number of those children die before they can reproduce. This also creates a lot of suffering, but since it’s a natural process rather than a social construct it’s impossible to call any part of it out for cruelty. There is no exploiter, and so there can be no exploitation. We can feel bad for the slowest gazelle but we don’t morally condemn the lion because the suffering it creates is part of the natural world.
Of course, free market capitalism is not a natural process, there are things that we could do to mitigate or eliminate the suffering it creates, and trying to prevent that from happening is morally reprehensible. This is particularly true if you’re in a relatively privileged position like, say, a finance capitalist in a major startup hub or working in an industry that for various reasons has been given a significantly better deal than most working people. At that point you’re either doing the exploiting or siding with the exploiters and actively perpetuating unnecessary suffering. But if that suffering was natural then it wouldn’t be unnecessary and you wouldn’t be doing anything inarguably wrong.
It’s just Jordan Peterson and his goddamn lobsters again.
Yeah it fits a pattern, half of starship troopers is about how other societies had ideals not based on mathematical truths but theirs is (no proof is ever shown). Another reason why I think the book reads so much better as a parody. The Eternal Science of Marxism, but now for Warrior Libertarians (who cannot even fight a proper war, see the whole technodogs thing).
It honestly reminds me of the stories you’d hear from like the 60s and 70s of people cult-hopping because the specifics of the ideology or the religion didn’t matter as much as the sense of believing in something. Notably a fair number of those people ended up in evangelical churches and, presumably, maga.
See also how he finds it good that capitalism has no logo, but still desires a logo for capitalism. And suggests others want it too.
But hey, of all the cult leaders in the space, Aella is prob the least bad. At least her cult doesn’t come with a lot of mandatory reading homework.
Veering semi-OT: the guy behind the godawful Windows 11 GUI has revealed himself:
Looking at his Twitter profile, its clear he’s a general dumpster fire of a human being - most of his feed’s just him retweeting AI garbage or fash garbage.
this one is a joke, i think. he is definitely on the fashy bullshit though
It’s not healthy for me to have my biases confirmed like this.
But it lets you adjust your priors so pleasantly!
It also means you can update your priors about your own
biasespredictive instincts being good, allowing you to be more confident in literally everything you’ve ever believed or thought about for half a second. Superpredictors unite!
Not advocating violence, but Achewood did demonstrate one possible set of reactions to discovering a Microsoft designer at large in public.
@BlueMonday1984 lol @ “I try not to let [performance] considerations get in the way”
Also why do you even put a React Dev on that task 🤡:(
“I try not to let [performance] considerations get in the way
You could show me this without any context whatsoever and my first thought would’ve been “did a React dev say that”
Pretty good summary of why Alex Karp is as much a horrible fucking shithead as Thiel.
https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/alex-karp-palantir-tech-republic/tnamp/
time amplifying the nonsense around saltman’s orb grift
features a helluva lot of words while at multiple points remaining entirely incurious about the claims it amplifies
Tante has a couple of questions for Anthropic:
