First, mind the community. Can’t help that it ended up in /all. Second, would that point have gotten across to you without the post? So it wasn’t really pointless.
Maybe it’s the over-the-top defensiveness that is the problem, rather than a post in an anarchist community presenting a point of view that made some people react in that way.
I was being funny when I said they made a good point, I already knew that anarchist infighting over whether to vote is pointless and that certain anarchists claiming their political disengagement as representative of anarchism is toxic.
Anarchists don’t care if you vote or not. The problem starts when electoralism binds resources, e.g. when politically motivated people help out an electoral campaign by canvasing.
anarchists claiming their political disengagement
Equating political engagement with electoralism is the actual toxic thing.
The United States has some of the longest election cycles, maybe in the world, but definitely among western liberal democracies.
So yes, the literal act itself takes a day. But everything surrounding that day is taken up by planning for the next election, enough robs people of other kinds of political engagement, by being such a massive time and energy sink.
Sorry that I’m angry that marginalized groups are going to die in the literal millions because you thought that spiritualist roleplay was more important than harm reduction.
I know, after all, that no anarchist has ever been in support of harm reduction through electoral participation. /s
Sorry that I’m angry that marginalized groups are going to die in the literal millions because you thought that spiritualist roleplay was more important than harm reduction.
Yes, it was me. I didn’t vote In the US elections and that’s why Trump is back in power.
I know, after all, that no anarchist has ever been in support of harm reduction through electoral participation.
Yes, it was me. I didn’t vote In the US elections and that’s why Trump is back in power.
“I was only one person” is the exact kind of stupid nonsense fascists and monarchists tell themselves to allow them to go along with the ruling caste without making the merest fuss about it.
A third of the fucking country didn’t vote. Trump won by just over a percentage point - that is to say, less than a percentage point of eligible voters.
Do you not see why shitting on electoral participation is a problem, in light of that? Do you not see how it helps fascism?
Voting won’t create an anarchist utopia. Voting alone won’t even create a non-fucked democracy. But not voting will absolutely lead to a immeasurably more fucked government in power.
Strawman much? I said electoralism.
Yet all your comments target electoral participation.
Focusing on nothing but voting enables neoliberalism in promoting fascism.
Well I’m right behind you bud. I’ll vote AND you let me know what you wanna do.
Vote if you want. But don’t waste too much time doing so and join a political org.
Good news for you, voting only takes one day.
But that’s not counting this time we’re spending on it right now.
Wow, good point. Maybe posts like this that pointlessly create drama by attacking people who vote are part of the problem.
First, mind the community. Can’t help that it ended up in /all. Second, would that point have gotten across to you without the post? So it wasn’t really pointless.
Maybe it’s the over-the-top defensiveness that is the problem, rather than a post in an anarchist community presenting a point of view that made some people react in that way.
I was being funny when I said they made a good point, I already knew that anarchist infighting over whether to vote is pointless and that certain anarchists claiming their political disengagement as representative of anarchism is toxic.
You’re nothing bqt strawmanning anarchists.
Anarchists don’t care if you vote or not. The problem starts when electoralism binds resources, e.g. when politically motivated people help out an electoral campaign by canvasing.
Equating political engagement with electoralism is the actual toxic thing.
The United States has some of the longest election cycles, maybe in the world, but definitely among western liberal democracies.
So yes, the literal act itself takes a day. But everything surrounding that day is taken up by planning for the next election, enough robs people of other kinds of political engagement, by being such a massive time and energy sink.
It’s your choice whether you want to campaign for a candidate.
They want to kill anybody who disagrees with installing an autocrat who promises to redistribute wealth via execution.
Veryeanarchist stance /s
We can only ever have one message. Classic and so true /s
Electoralism doesn’t change shit and binds resources.
The amount of simping for electoralist politics in an anarchist sub is truly depressing.
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Voting changes things. See: every election that wasn’t rigged. Maybe some that were.
Ok, my bad: it doesn’t change shit in your favour.
You assume everyone is like you and wanted trump to win, apparently
Jesus fucking Christ.
Look, it’s PugJesus being angry at the anarchists in the anarchist com! Go figure. /s
Sorry that I’m angry that marginalized groups are going to die in the literal millions because you thought that spiritualist roleplay was more important than harm reduction.
I know, after all, that no anarchist has ever been in support of harm reduction through electoral participation. /s
Yes, it was me. I didn’t vote In the US elections and that’s why Trump is back in power.
Strawman much? I said electoralism.
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You mean the European Union? /j
“I was only one person” is the exact kind of stupid nonsense fascists and monarchists tell themselves to allow them to go along with the ruling caste without making the merest fuss about it.
A third of the fucking country didn’t vote. Trump won by just over a percentage point - that is to say, less than a percentage point of eligible voters.
Do you not see why shitting on electoral participation is a problem, in light of that? Do you not see how it helps fascism?
Voting won’t create an anarchist utopia. Voting alone won’t even create a non-fucked democracy. But not voting will absolutely lead to a immeasurably more fucked government in power.
Yet all your comments target electoral participation.
I’m not eligible to vote in the US due to not being an American.
Sure, it was due to leftists not condoning genocide that Trump won. Didn’t know they were so strong in the US. /S
Sure /s
voting is not harm reduction