From the article:
Sadly, the woman I briefly dated is not alone in her beliefs. In a survey of over 1,000 women, conducted by Glamour in 2016, 63% of women said they wouldn’t date a man who’s had sex with another man. (This isn’t just men who identify as bi. This includes all men who’ve experimented with another man, even if it only happened once!) Still, 47% of women said they’ve been attracted to another woman, and 31% of women have had a sexual experience with another woman.
NOTE: This is not the titular study but is used to establish context.
The study can be found here: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15299716.2018.1563935?journalCode=wjbi20
If anybody happens to be able to find the fulltext please feel free to link it.
Yeah I don’t think this is super surprising unfortunately.
Being a man and dating men undermines patriarchial conceptions of masculinity. A lot of these conceptions are very deeply-held; I think it’s easy to consider acceptance easy when it’s academic or theoretical, but when it becomes personal all bets are off. Think of all the pro-gay parents, who, when their children come out, completely flip out.
I think there’s also, tragically, a large element of HIV stigma in here.
HIV stigma has a huge role to play in the history of the phenomena. See AIDS SPECTER FOR WOMEN: THE BISEXUAL MAN
Here’s a relevant video on the topic. I tried to post it but folks don’t seem to like the title. It’s primarily about the history there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbHhIeYL9no
Patriarchal conceptions of masculinity is aka the instincts of straight female humans.
Everyone wants to blame culture, and via the word “patriarchy” they want to blame men, for this kind of thing but it’s way deeper than that.
what thw fuckn i recomend you to go outside, what a bullshit, and this isn’t a pro-gender war community, stop spreading that, no, actually, go to your red pill/incel instances, just from you using “female” i can feel the misoginy, pleaae, let us alone
Why do you say “female” but follow it with “men” instead of “male”? Makes you seem like an incel or some men’s rights nut job.
straight female humans.
No, this isn’t just women; it is patriarchy, the entire set of power and systems that everyone participates in. Men blame men for being bisexual at least as much as women do.
please, don’t waste words, look of his others comments, just report if you want, but i don’t they can be convised to let go the hate
To be fair, in this case I doubt they broke any rules. Speaking up always does more than downvotes. Particularly true for those of us on instances without downvotes.
Our obsession with gender and gender roles infects/affects everything, and makes as little sense as obsessing about whether someone is left-handed, right-handed, or ambidextrous. Seriously, why should anyone care about how others dress, how they identify, or who they choose to sleep with?
IME there is substantial correlation between religiosity and an obsession with gender. On my more cynical days I might suggest there is a causal relationship.
this is because of insecurity from these womans in dating bi-men, or they see them as less manly, and thus “weak” in patriarchy’s view?
My (bi) ex gf was quite insecure and said she couldn’t date a bi man because she would get jealous of all his friends rather than just his female ones.
I’ve found a lot of women don’t believe men can be “as” bi as women can be, and there’s this suspicion that if a guy has ever been (or just wanted to be) with another guy, they must be more into guys than women, and wen don’t want to have to wonder/worry about that. I think this is just a reflection of societal implications around male and female gayness being different though, that women are accepted to exist on more of a spectrum (perhaps because attraction to women feels natural to straight men, so it is less “surprising” or foreign to see even other women feel it), while men are considered more binary.
