aka Montreal NIMBYs larped as environmentalists to cancel a train
Immagine having space for trains on the ground. Elevated Trains need to be elevated because we clinge to a car dependent infrastructure, otherwise we would have more than enough space.
Ground tracks can divide neighborhoods in the same ways a highway can; but still a very valid point. We don’t think twice about bulldozing and cutting for roads.
Oh the urbanity! Also did a piece on this https://youtu.be/o5PieqjOuzA
Well, they registered levels of noise higher than the safety margin in people’s backyard during the test phase… So yeah, there a pretty good reason to complain when you have to hear that every 4 minutes…
Faisant référence à des sons captés pour en mesurer les niveaux dans Pointe-Saint-Charles mercredi, notamment dans La Presse, il évoque « des pics atteignant 75 décibels, alors que la santé publique recommande que l’on ne dépasse pas 55 décibels […]. On est au-delà de ce qui est raisonnablement acceptable ».
Cars are equally loud and even more pollution, we should never have to endure more than 60db. https://www.berlin.de/umweltatlas/en/traffic-noise/noise-pollution/1993/map-description/ If we build more elevated trains, the needs for Cars is reduced and we could move the train to the ground where right now a lot of Streets/Stroads are. And those trains/trams are way quiter than cars https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0003682X21003285
Current numbers vs a study from 1993.
I would also ask you to point out where I said that cars were any better… Although let’s be clear, cars produce the same level of noise at speeds/RPM that are of no concern in urban areas, which is not the case for the REM as it produces that noise in urban areas.
Doesn’t the REM follow the 30, over the Champlain, then shunt over to the train tracks that are parallel to the Bonaventure?
Those are already very noisy areas, no?
And the REM is still noisier than what people were already used to.
People are complaining in Griffintown, Pointe-Saint-Charles ans l’Île-des-sœurs.