Making up arguments to justify their BS.

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    YDI, the article was about the use of human shields and in addition to that, you have also have been spouting a lot of pro-Israel bullshit when they are currently participating in a genocide. Also blatantly encouraging violence. Doesn’t look good on you, this is a classic case of bellyaching over being censored for encouragement of violence. In all honesty probably should’ve been a permanent ban, might end up becoming one since you decided to go and post shit here.

    Context OP chose not to show, which displays blatant pro-israel sentiment:

    As well as one of their statements encouraging violence:

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      Being pro-Israel is besides the point. I am anti-violence first and foremost. That calling for violence bs is actually the opposite. I am mocking the absurdity of using violence when it is giving them zero benefit at horrible cost. Imagine thinking ‘speak up at the UN’ is a call for violence.

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        Being pro-Israel is besides the point.

        Not really, Israel is currently engaged in a genocide of the Palestinian people. They are bombing hospitals, shooting civilians. Supporting them is almost universally frowned upon right now and would definitely contribute to your being banned from communities. Not on it’s own, but in the context of the other shit you posted, it would definitely be a factor.

        I am anti-violence first and foremost. That calling for violence bs is actually the opposite.

        Try and communicate that a bit better then, your comments are telling the opposite story, things like this: Don’t come off to others as a peaceful non-violent person. They come off as advocating violence, specifically the part where:

        Anyone else still think it’s a good idea to resort to violence against Israel?

        Yeah that combined with your other comments either supporting or refusing to condemn the use of human shields really doesn’t make you look good here. And it isn’t surprising in the least why they banned you from the community. Be grateful they didn’t permanently ban you.

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          Be grateful they didn’t permanently ban you

          lol ‘be grateful Musk didn’t ban you permanently from X’ is how that sounds at this point. What a surprise: someone digging deep for another statement taken way out of context isn’t seeing the problem. Keep supporting lazy and inappropriate banning that supports your agenda. Enjoy the shithole that this place becomes because of it. Hate Reddit? It’s not nearly as bad as this mess is and defending it makes you part of the problem.

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            What are you on about? You got banned for comments which came off as being in support of the use of human shields, as well as the use of violent language and encouragement of violence. There isn’t a deeper meaning and you aren’t being oppressed, you behaved out of line, and you were disciplined.

            People additionally don’t have your sympathy because of your pro-Israel position, given the fact that they are the primary aggressors in this conflict. This is also true for moderators as well and means they will be much less understanding when you spew stuff like this:

            Lol, the hypocrisy. I wonder how many down votes a comment condemning booby-traps in civilian areas will get. Great example of how infested this community is.

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    YDI, the article was about Israeli use of human shields.

    Remember to upvote the post for being on topic!

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    ???

    Making up shit? How isn’t it exactly what you wrote?

    You literally are defending the use of human shields.

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      They defend Israel constantly. I wouldn’t waste your time, but if you’re going to I want you to at least know what you are getting into

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        I mean… He was literally defending using human people as mine detectors.

        I realized what scum I was responding to, just wanted to make it clear what he was saying to people who weren’t really paying attention to the posts he made

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      That is not a defence of human shields. There are 2 war crimes being described in that article and you’re only allowed to talk about the one.

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    they slash our tires. We use their bodies as replacement for tires. I don’t see how we are being inhumane???

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    Oh look. Another asshole crying victim when they’re being treated for the asshole they are.

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      I think they misunderstand the purpose of the community, it’s a community meant to discuss power tripping bastards, not assholes who are censored rightfully or should’ve gotten off with a lot more than a slap on the wrist. In other words, there’s no power tripping, in fact I’d say this mod was a little too easy on them giving them a 9 day vacation instead of kicking them out for good.

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    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world Just curious, What’s your opinion on this situation with this user, both considering that they posted what they posted, but also that they came here to complain afterwards, and given their extensive history.

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    You didn’t even say it was bad to use human shields at any point. Now I don’t think you should be banned for it but it says a lot about your ethical standards and what it says is not good.

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        Absolutely! I just imagine that people want to be morally and intellectually consistent, so I think it’s important to point out when they are not.

        Of course maybe they think Hamas using “human shields” is fine too? Doubt it but at least that wouldn’t be hypocritical

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        So you do denounce the IDF for using human shields? It’s unclear when you seem to only focus on the portion of the blame that lies with Hamas

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          It is not unclear. It requires a basic understanding of words which you seem to finally have figured out.

          Jeopardizing civilian lives, either by placing booby-traps or using them as shields are both warcrimes.

          My stance has always been that all the violence is BS. I just hate that lemmy.world blatantly gives Hamas a pass.

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            A metaphor.

            You in this thread:

            both sides are committing war crimes but in only complaining about one, how don’t you get that I’m mad at both of them!

            You in that thread:

            Yeah guys! I’m just saying ALL LIVES MATTER so why are all these BLM people mad?

            I’m just saying why are black people getting a pass?

            You, unironically.

            It’s a poor metaphor because the genocide being committed intentionally is worse

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            It is not unclear. It requires a basic understanding of words which you seem to finally have figured out.

            If it only required a “basic” understanding why would so many people have been making the same point to you?

            If a headline says “x group did a crime” and someone responds “y group are criminals” it is not at all obvious what this person’s stance on x group is. If anything this reads like a deflection onto y group, so someone might infer that the responder supports x group or at least is more concerned about y group.

            If the person says “yes, x group did do a crime but let’s not forget y group are criminals too” then it is super clear what this person means. If you omit a response to the actual topic at hand you have no place getting mad when people assume you don’t care about that.

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              He’s not going to do that, because he does not actually believe that. He’s talking about people “giving Hamas a pass” to cover up his real views on the matter, which is that he is aligned with Israel despite the fact they are committing a genocide.

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              Because unless it is stated explicitly it wasn’t actually meant? So you understand how the ban was wrong then as I didn’t explicitly say “the IDF are right to use palestinian shields” right? Thank you for agreeing with me.

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                It is a bit weird that even when asked directly you “both sides”-ed it, and this is also another deflection. I believe that you think that, but then why not just say it clearly?

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      I don’t think they’ll want him either, unless they’re pro israel and support violence against others. In which case probably shouldn’t be giving them attention.

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        @BrikoX@lemmy.zip What’s your opinion on this? Do you think this person would be a good fit in your news community? The OP I mean, what with their behavior of promoting violence and apologia towards Israel’s actions.