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Look at what they took from you men. Reject modernity, embrace tradition.
Step in to the heels and flaunt the lace.
🎵 Be an example to your sex! Give your boot a dapper strap, And it’s smarter if your garter has some snap!
Cravats should be flounced about our necks; Wear a nightcap when you nap - Be bewitching with some stitching on your cap!
Now, drape your cape And puff your cuff, Embroider those lapels! Be the king of the beasts in pastels!
La, but someone has to strike a pose And bear the weight of well-tailored clothes And that is why the Lord created men! 🎵
Le Pimpernel Scarlet?
Oui!!
Okay Mat Cauthon
This is fascinating! As I understand it, driven by the enlightenment and the industrial revolution, men rejected beauty in favor of rationality and standardization. Men apparently traded in high-heels for a pocket-watch.
I appreciate It takes a man 5 seconds to get ready vs woman that still feel they have to put full armor on before leaving home.
yeah but more often than not that full armor is fun! and if you’re not impatient, then taking more time really isn’t that big of a deal
One of My roommates felt it was an expression of herself and rocked a bold look. Very valid.
I like The simpler style but I have 0 art sense. Especially when I just wanna get groceries and maybe stop for a donut. I don’t see the need to be kitted up. “Like let’s goo! Your mother is in the car!” Lol
because why not? at least if it could make it a more enjoyable experience
You have a strong argument. If it’s fun why not. I entirely respect the other side of my position. Its Just not fun to me. Plus I barely wanna look at my face for 5 seconds in the mirror to style my hair. Lol
but maybe if you spent more time on it you would want to look at your face for longer and decorate it
You make a interesting point. I can see how that could happen. Though i think people do this so other people can look at them. Like those Asian makeup transformations are epic.
Fundamentally, I don’t think I have patience or skill for it. Like I can’t draw a straight line with a ruler.
Plus I want to blend into a room and not standout. Then there is the money and finding the right makeup. This is too oilly, this brand doesn’t sell my shade, the thing i like is discountinued, this is great but it’s 50$ an ounce. Makes me want to hit head against wall.
the beginnings of boring modernism 🥲
dress/formal/professional clothes are designed to enforce the class devide. Wear cheap casual and fuck that shit.
my wife and I dress pretty similarly. Does still look better on her though.
I feel that with modern casual clothes, we’ve somewhat renounced the renunciation. Most of my shirts are some color, even my dress shirts actually.
sad times 😔
Y tho?
Apparently a big part of it was Beau Brummel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beau_BrummellHe was an influencer among the English aristocracy and did a lot to drive the fashion of his era. That’s him in the picture in this post.
Did he just not want to deal with all the frills anymore, or what?
Actually, backing up a bit, this was all happening in the late 1700’s in the midst of the Enlightenment and the French Revolution. There was a widespread rejection of anything tied to the old running classes of western Europe, and an embrace of utility over flair.
In Brummel’s case he also apparently had a reputation for obsessing over details. So he went with the trend of avoiding garish, flamboyant clothes but would still show his class status by being super particular about the cut, fabric, stitching, etc. It caught on among the aristocracy. Modern men’s formal wear is still very much stuck in that mindset.
This is interesting history that I’ve never heard of before. Thank you for sharing. I’m sort of glad for his influence, since I don’t think I’d enjoy wearing all the crap worn by men in the 17th and 18th centuries.
Weird
