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I heard about a study that women who own horses live longer. The comment below was "if you can afford a horse you can probably afford health insurance. It isn’t the horse "
It would be funny if the punchline wasn’t the first thing you read.
Edit, realized the second comment adds nothing too, enjoy the jpeg.
The internet is just one giant network of that one annoying kid in elementary school who kept repeating jokes other people made 30 seconds ago.
We were all that kid in a way
What’s more depressing than American healthcare?
Canadian conservatives replacing theirs with the American system without a fight.
When I last visited Canada a group of old men were talking at the Canadian Tire about how long it takes to see a doctor. Were saying they need to start making people pay like they do in the States.
Don’t fall for that propaganda. We have both long waits and pay a ton of money. It can be both. I’ve had bills up to $118,000 and it can take me a year to see a specialist. I can’t find a primary care doctor and it takes several months to get in with a temporary nurse practitioner instead.
How did you have 118000 to pay?
Most likely the insurance covered a huge chunk of that.
It’s a long story, but the TL;DR; of American healthcare is:
Healthcare providers over-inflate their costs and over-charge by orders of magnitude to insurance agencies. Why? It’s because insurance agencies have whole teams and teams and teams and teams and teams (80% of insurance companies cost is administrative groups that just do this) of people that negotiate/argue that down to a reasonable amount. This means they pay a fraction of that initial bill, but they don’t show that in the printout, instead they negotiate only “their part” of the bill, and send the rest they didn’t negotiate down to the enrollee to cover up to their yearly maximum.
This is why you see bills for $100K+ and your amount owed is roughly $2-3K with insurance “paying” the rest.
It’s pathetic. We are willing choosing to let it go, despite being such a huge advantage of being Canadian
Wait are you guys going down the shitter too? Illegally migrating to canada has always been my backup plan
the entire conservative agenda is to dismantle universal healthcare from the inside to prove that “it doesn’t work, we should privatize it”
Oh yeah, we are. Pierre says privatization is cool, and like morons, the majority of Canada believes that this rendition of trickle down economics won’t line the pockets of the rich
Someone didn’t hear about the convoys
I hear this a lot but where is it happening? Definitely not in the discussion in NS.
Dont get me wrong, fuck the PCs but I havent seen any real evidence of replacing our public medical system.
It’s the provinces with an outrageously wealthy upper class. BC, Calgary, and Ontario are chock full of rich conservatives that want to replicate the American system in Canada so that they can rival their American peers.
It’s not “our” it’s per province. Alberta in my case.
Heaven forbid life expectancy factors be TWO things!
Obviously easy access to healthcare AND a non corn syrup based diet are important factors in determining longevity.
Edit: Does anyone know what this category of logical fallacy is called? Basically the fallacy where a person incorrectly tries to attribute an outcome to a single cause.
Yes but life expectancy has been rising in those countries despite worse diets and obesity rising. So it seems access to healthcare is a stronger factor.
It is not two things, it is several things. Life expectancy in the US is lower mainly because of one thing though.
In East Texas the further one is away from Houston the less their life expectancy. We all eat the same stuff, I think. The difference maxes out to 5 years average less per person, near Louisiana, but if you look at the actuary stats it’s a straight line correlation between medical center distance and how long we live, on average
This honestly is repeated for many states in the USA. The metro areas have same life expectancies as Europe and Japan, but it’s balanced out by rural lack of access and fewer preventative cares.
It is a lot easier to survive a heart attack and stroke if you can reach a hospital or comparable medical service in a reasonable amount of time.
Yes, that too, but the way it was explained to me is that high blood pressure, diabetes and easy to diagnose diseases which make up the majority. All solved by regular checkups
Causal oversimplification is a specific kind of false dilemma where conjoint possibilities are ignored.
Reductionism? Oversimplification?
Einstein supposedly said “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler”
6$ to see the doctor? That’s outrageous!
Also when every lead poisoned hillbilly and their toddlers don’t have unfettered access to firearms, that probably brings down life expectancy a little bit.
And I’m sure the massive over reliance on cars, the form of transit with the highest mortality rate, and freeway doesn’t help.
Nor the fact that every portion of food is enough to feed a small village for a week and is at least 10% corn syrup by mass.
It’s good that the reply with someone repeating the joke was included in the Facebook screenshot and it’s even better that this Twitter screenshot includes someone else repeating the joke
POV: MFW when there’s a paywall on 70th birthday
Nobody:
The paywall my country has set up (my 70th birthday is behind it):
Paywalls: something foreign countries don’t lock 70th birthdays behind
Move more. Eat better. Have better access to medical care and no stigma in using it.
There was also an article a while back that most “blue zones” (I think they were called) are probably BS with inconsistent and bad measurement.
Tbf diet is a factor, too. Not living in a food desert is a huge plus.
But seriously, the Mediterranean Diet is also a thing discussed in Europe while the north is wealthier and has better social security. Still, no one recommends the Scandinavian Diet or living without sunlight in winter. I still value the post as a meme. I don’t want to be the actually guy but just provide some context.
Didn’t someone prove that these statistics are all thrown off by pension fraud?
And they walk a lot more
Avg life expectancy at birth in the US is 78.5 years, and the highest avg life expectancy in the EU is Switzerland at 83.4 years, which is a difference of 4.9 years, not 15. Metabolic disorders driven by diet are absolutely the biggest contributor to mortality in the US. You should see the disgusting shit these people are willing to put in their bodies over and over. A lot of people just don’t remember not feeling shitty and are completely unaware their diet contributes to feeling bad.
If you are comparing a single country in Europe to the US the comparison should be at the state level.
Mississippi is the lowest state and close to 70 years in 2020. So if the comparison is the lowest US state to highest European state then you get a gap that is close to 15 depending on what year’s data is being compared.
A better comparison would be all of the US to all of Europe since we vary so much from state to state just like Europe varies from country to country.
It would make more sense to compare the highest states/countries to each other and the lowest states/countries to each other, but even then you could keep comparing smaller regions and still just not come up with what you’re looking for. In the US, there’s way more poverty and people who subsist on absolute junk food 24/7. On the other hand, the life expectancy in NYC is over 85, and in my county in Texas it’s 82. There are lots of factors that go into this, and the meme above misses the mark
100%
Metabolic syndrome is the modern plague
Infant mortality is a big reason our life expectancy is so low. Which is connected to how hard it is to see a doctor for lower income people.
Can confirm. Canadians eat like trash and are only 1 year below Italy.
Somebody I know was watching that TV show with Zac Efron claiming the people in an Itallian Village lived longer. I looked it up and that whole are has a lower percentage of elderly than average EU nations.
The Mediterranean diet doesn’t exist, these countries have longer life expectancies because they’re bad at reporting deaths and their governments think that they have a bunch of 110 year olds.
Of course, the dropping life expectancy in the US is almost certainly due to depression and lack of healthcare.
The researcher who debunked these so-called “blue zones” received an Ig Nobel prize this year.
