• A7thStone@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    You don’t straw buy an AR then pick it up and cross state lines with it going to a known chaotic protest without premeditated “self defence”.

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      6 hours ago

      Yeah and you don’t get acquitted of that either. Also one of the surviving “victims” doesn’t blow the prosecution’s case by being honest in your scenario. That look of defeat photo is priceless.

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      6 hours ago

      Carrying a gun is “premeditated self defence”? Are people only supposed to carry guns where it is safe? What is the purpose of that?

      So many people pushing this ridiculous idea he is guilty for not staying at home, quaking in his boots. Right to self defense and to bear arms literally exist so that people don’t have to fear walking outside because of asshat violent criminals and rioters.

      And even more ridiculous saying the police and prosecutors didn’t care. What do you mean? They went after him with everything they had. It was a jury of his peers that told them to f off with that shit.

      But I guess lemmy only likes juries if they nullify actual murderers they like, not when they let go an innocent person they don’t like. (I don’t like Rittenhouse either, but that does not make him a murderer.)

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        56 minutes ago

        I remember when I was a freshman in high school, I worked at a McDonald’s. For whatever reason, I owned a Burger King t shirt. As a 14 year old, I thought it would be funny to wear the Burger King shirt to work. I figured it would annoy my boss and might get a few reactions out of other people. It didn’t work, but there were no real consequences because of it.

        You really can’t see how Rittenhouse did a similar thing? He went to a protest knowing he was diametrically opposite, politically, to people actually protesting and he did it with a big ass gun. Like my Burger King t shirt, this was very clearly sending a message of “I am your enemy.” And the message wasn’t on a harmless shirt, it was on a deadly big ass gun.

        You really truly believe he had no intention of killing? Are you dumb?

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          46 minutes ago

          You really truly believe he had no intention of killing? Are you dumb?

          Cops bring guns to risky arrests. Do you believe they have intention of killing? I do, at least conditionally, yes. As in they absolutely intend to kill the guy being arrested if he pulls a weapon. Almost everyone that carries a gun has the intention of shooting anyone who attacks them. That is the point of a gun.

          Like my Burger King t shirt, this was very clearly sending a message of “I am your enemy.”

          I don’t know if he was hoping to shoot someone or if he expected to just intimidate them and didn’t expect anyone would be dumb enough to start attacking a guy with a big ass gun. From legal perspective, I don’t care, hoping for something is not illegal.

          From whether Rittenhouse is an asshole, I already said I think he is anyway.

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            Rittenhouse was not a cop, he was a douchebag little shit stirrer with a murder fantasy, and he got exactly what he wanted — a fun murder spree killing liberals with no consequences.

            I’m not going to coordinate an effort to lynch the piece of shit, but spreading bullshit about how “he’s not a murderer,” like what you’re doing, is disingenuous at best. Kindly, shut the fuck up

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              He got exactly what he wanted — a fun murder spree killing liberals with no consequences.

              He killed two violent assholes who not only thought attacking people on the streets for their opinions is acceptable, but were dumb enough to attack and keep attacking someone with a gun in his hands. I give zero shits about if he wanted to do it.

              It was not murder, since murder means killing illegally, which this was not. Not even if he was hoping they would attack him and went there for that purpose.

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                It was not murder, since murder means killing illegally

                You could have picked from so many different reasons to why this was not murder, but this one takes the cake.

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                14 minutes ago

                Violent bloodthirsty evil thug, then. Is that better for you, Herr Pedant?

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                    Orchestrating a scenario in which the only possible outcome is self-defense by deadly force sounds an awful lot like premeditated murder, to me. I think you should reevaluate what you consider pedantry.

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        6 hours ago

        Everything they had? He’s still alive. That’s more than most shooters get.

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            No? But usually shooters get shot, especially if they shoot blindly into unarmed folks. How isn’t anyone able to read any more? Did I write trial?