• Ulrich@feddit.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    12
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    1 day ago

    As always, Apple is gaslighting you. The only reason is because Google is paying them tens of b-b-billions of dollars a year not to. And they don’t want to give that up.

    • Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      22 hours ago

      Why spend billions a year on a search engine when someone will pay you billions a year to use theirs?

      This isn’t gaslighting, it’s the basics of tenet capitalism.

      In what scenario does Apple generate 20 billion a year by owning a internet search product?

      Search engines are a dead end. The future is a LLM that can tie its results to sources.

      I have more confidence in Apple getting that right than Google. Google doesn’t even have the confidence in themselves to brand their product with Google in the name.

      • Ulrich@feddit.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        14 hours ago

        This isn’t gaslighting

        It is though, because they’re trying to convince you (and the government) that that’s not the reason.

        Search engines are a dead end. The future is a LLM that can tie its results to sources.

        I’m pretty sure we’ve already seen that that’s a dead end.

        • Pup Biru@aussie.zone
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          2 hours ago

          2 things can be true… just because they omitted 1 reason doesn’t mean the other isn’t also true

          • Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            12 minutes ago

            Making up reasons to assert gaslight is occurring is gaslighting. There is no proof Apple is lying.

            This is an excellent example of not being able to reason someone out of a position they didn’t use reason to get into.

            Belief is not proof. If you want to pettle conspiracies, try 4chan.

        • Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          5 hours ago

          That what’s the reason? You haven’t proposed their true motive, what sanity are they attempting to make us question because you don’t appear to understand what gaslighting means. At best you think they are lying, which isn’t gaslighting and is a really stupid thing to do around federal investigations.

          • Ulrich@feddit.org
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 hour ago

            I did all of that in my parent comment. It’s only stupid if the government can prove it’s not true, which they can’t.

            • Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              17 minutes ago

              Apple: We’re a search engine company and we don’t want to be.

              You: Zomg, gaslighting. Based on information I want to be true, Apple totally wants to be a search engine and wants to be!

              The only one doing any gaslighting here is you.

    • joelfromaus@aussie.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      22 hours ago

      That’s more likely to be the answer. If Apple were content having Google’s sloppy seconds while having full opportunity to make Alphabet level profits1 then the world would turn upside down. It’s more likely that Apple doesn’t see an easy avenue to those mountains of ad-revenue money without compromising their privacy image. Might as well take Google’s cheque to the bank the same time as iCloud subscription profits cheque.

      *1: I should probably clarify that I mean on top of what they already earn.

    • Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      22 hours ago

      Literally one of the bullet points:

      In order to create a “viable” search engine business, Apple would be required to “sell targeted advertising,” which is “not a core business” for the company and would go against its “longstanding privacy commitments.”