• .Donuts@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    Discoverability is a huge problem on Steam because there’s so many games releasing, you can’t really keep up.

    18,000 games is almost 50 per day on average. That’s 50 titles fighting for your attention and wallet every single day.

    If you don’t get noticed because you didn’t spend half of your development budget on marketing, or your game didn’t pick up well with influencers or more traditional media like reviews, you’re just kinda fucked. No matter how good your game might be.

    Speaking about quality, how many of those 18k titles were uninspiring, asset flipping slop?

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      8 hours ago

      The Steam Next Fest is how I found most of the good indie games I’ve played. Making a good demo will put you above 99% of the cruft out there.

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        7 hours ago

        that and word of mouth or just cool gameplay vids. dude parrying an explosion got me to withlist va proxy

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      It doesn’t help that Steam store is a nightmare to navigate.

      Releasing demos is a great way to succeed. It doesn’t take me more than 5 minutes to decide if it’s something I want to continue playing.

      Putting videos of nothing but cut-scenes is a great way to ensure I keep scrolling but every title seems to take this approach.

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        8 hours ago

        I’ve always dreamed of a world where game demos were mandated by law. Some products can’t be tested out easily, but just about any video game really can.

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    12 hours ago

    Guys we have soooo much shovelware, asset flips and softcore porn that’s barely a game. This is very much a good thing!!!

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    That’s unironically the reason I don’t even attempt to find games on Steam anymore.

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      13 hours ago

      I’ll only go looking if I see a cool game in a YouTube video or see a cool article about something coming out soon that looks interesting. Otherwise, same.

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      It depends, sometimes I go down the rabbit hole on their “Games Like This” suggestions on my favorite games’ store pages. I actually just found a cool one that way the other day called Ad Fundum. It was a funny coincidence since it came up suggested on a completely unrelated game, but I’d been wanting a game centered around digging underground.

      But yeah, with literally over 100,000+ games on Steam, it’s become way too difficult to find quality stuff that isn’t AAA or indie games that struck it lucky with popular streamers giving them exposure. Which sucks for indie devs that actually put out their passion projects since it makes discoverability so hard, as others have pointed out here.

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        I’ve always found the “games like this” section to be so superficial that it very rarely actually has games which I’d consider to be similar to the one I’m looking at. Just looking at the store right now, for “Aquaria” which I really enjoy, it recommends Skyrim as a similar game. Sure they both are open world adventure RPGs… but I definitely would not consider them to be similar games.

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          It’s definitely a crapshoot a lot of times. But there’s usually at least one or two on there that are similar enough that I might genuinely be interested in it. You can also forcefully hide games from showing up in suggestions, iirc. I’ve never done it, but some of my friends have recommended doing so in order to make Steam dig deeper for finding lesser known stuff. I’m not that big of a connoisseur, though.

          Edit:

          I recalled correctly, and it seems they’ve even made the Ignore button a lot easier to find (or I just never noticed before):

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        On a single platform. Giving a single company complete control over the marketplace, forcing any company looking to sell their game to a large audience to go through steam.

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      Do you seriously have nothing better to do on a holiday than just bash Valve? Jfc, go outside and touch grass you terminally online neckbeard

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        9 hours ago

        nothing better to do on a holiday

        Maybe don’t include that part when replying to a message on the holidays. Especially when you’re defending a monopoly.

        I know G*mers like you aren’t known for their critical thinking skills.

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      You ain’t got to buy the game on there, you can get codes at other retailers

      But steam is de facto PC store

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        You ain’t got to buy the game on there, you can get codes at other retailers

        You actually can’t buy the vast majority of Steam games elsewhere. 18,800 games released new this year on Steam. Do you know any legit retailers that even sell 18,000 games total?

        It’s something I’ve been noticing with all the routine seasonal complaining about sales on Steam not being worth looking at anymore… Sure, I don’t only buy from Steam, but I do buy more from Steam than elsewhere, because those games–good games–just are not other places to be bought. So on the one hand, I see a lot of value from Steam sales and people shouldn’t dis them so out of hand, but on the other, yeah Steam clearly controls the market. And that’s not even getting into how Steam deliberately reduces the value-to-the-devs of your off-Steam purchases, so buying elsewhere keeps your purchase and reviews from helping the dev earn much needed Steam visibility.

        So it’s far from as simple as “You can just buy codes elsewhere”.