Luigi Mangione has drawn lots of defenders on social media. That's a challenge for platforms when it comes to moderation — and for users.

Luigi Mangione has drawn lots of defenders on social media. That’s a challenge for platforms when it comes to moderation — and for users.

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  • bradd@lemmy.worldEnglish
    626·
    4 days ago

    I think the problem is that the population at large has the same problem that you seem to have. You can look at the message that he was trying to send and say, “he has a point” but to be “pro luigi” because he has a point is low IQ.

    Luigi isn’t just someone with an idea now also he’s a murderer. Now, being a vigilante murderer is part of Luigi, and to be pro Luigi because of his ideas is to also be pro vigilante murderer. The unibomber had some good points too, you know?

    If everyone were to aspire to be more like Luigi you know that would also mean more mass stabbings more mass shootings, more “im over this merraige so I’ll slaughter my partner and the kids” kind of shit. Society will devolve back to before laws and social contracts and it’ll be whoever can kill their opponents before their opponents kill them.

    • octopus_ink@lemmy.mlEnglish
      12·
      4 days ago

      Thought police much?

      And that last paragraph… You’re doing an awful lot of projection based on some guillotine memes and nintendo character photoshops.

      Society will devolve back to before laws and social contracts and it’ll be whoever can kill their opponents before their opponents kill them.

      Really?

      • bradd@lemmy.worldEnglish
        215·
        4 days ago

        Yes, really. If it’s normal acceptable and cool to walk up to someone in the streets and execute them because you’re angry, society devolves. It is a devolution because we have been here before, it is a societal regression, back to a more primitive order.

        Before, one would just rape when they’re horny and murder when they’re angry or bored. If you think I’m being hyperbolic go look at monkeys, or like the rest of the animal kingdom. What’s the number on infanticide, 30% of all animals engage in baby murder for one reason or another, or none. Same with Luigi.

        Again, does Luigi make a good point? Sure, but Jordan Peterson makes some good points too, he hasn’t murderered anyone to get the word out. Make your case and make it well and it will last vs being a violent flash in the pan, outlash at a single part of a very large system. It’s short-sighted, and doesn’t solve the problem that Luigi is mad about. It’s childish.

        Let’s not make him an idol and order more of that. Let’s condemn it and say, but yes he made some good points and build on that.

        • Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.netEnglish
          71·
          4 days ago

          If it’s normal acceptable and cool to walk up to someone in the streets and execute them because you’re angry, society devolves.

          That’s not what happened. The dude got shot for being a serial killer, not because some dude was angry.

    • DarkThoughts@fedia.io
      321·
      4 days ago

      It’s mob rule, which is why I cannot sympathize with the people with their Luigi memes and shit. If we just run around and murder all he people who rub us the wrong way, then we basically turn into some shithole like we’re seeing in many places in the Middle East or Africa, where warlords rule over everyone else.

      I also find this particular topic somewhat stupid when I see alleged Trumpanzees criticizing their far right pundits for calling the Luigi fanboys out. Like, you fuckers voted for someone who’s about the same caliber as that asshole that got murdered, who is supported by even more of the same kind of people. You cannot cry about this type of America, and then keep voting for this type of America (or even worse versions of it). It’s not even just hypocritical but straight up deluded. And then they all cry how voting doesn’t change anything. Stupid. Just stupid.

      • Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world
        6·
        3 days ago

        Here’s the deal, if we want law and order, it must apply to everyone. It does not, and there really isn’t mechanism right now to change that. The issue with the healtcare exec’s killing is that healthcare execs etc. and oligarchs that make decisions that kill people have to be held to account for their crimes, and that’s not happening. Their egregious denials of life-preserving coverage should be a crime if it isn’t already. The Oligarchs/healthcare insurers have rigged the system such that it does not bind them nor hold them responsible for their behaviors that kill people. This is where the lawlessness issue in our system began, not with Luigi’s vigilante act. Luigi committed murder, the health care execs and oligarchs also murder people with their decisions. Only Luigi’s actions are getting legally punished. As long as such unequal treatment in the law exists, it will inevitably end in vigilantism.

        • DarkThoughts@fedia.io
          14·
          3 days ago

          You’re not going to achieve that by throwing out the rules, quite the contrary. You’re just giving those people a reason to lobby on harder crackdowns on people, making it even harder to achieve actual change. The problem is that people keep voting against their interests, and not just on a presidential level but even starting on a local level. Hell, if there’s no one worth voting for then you should probably get active in politics yourself before you end up murdering people yourself. Either way, crying about murder and then becoming a murderer yourself is not the solution, but hypocrisy and will invite others doing the same for whoever they think deserve it.