c/conservative has been left modless. I’d like to request to moderate and clean up any misinformation on this community.

I am consistently online here and prepared to take on the responsibility.

Thank you for your consideration!

The requested community link is !conservative@lemmy.world

Additionally, I’d also like to request !fastfood@lemmy.world as for that one it seems a spam account created it and has since been abandoned for months

  • jetA
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    I’d rather that community be shutdown and locked then turned into a meme community antagonizing the group it’s named for.

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      locked then turned into a meme community antagonizing the group it’s named for.

      I get what you’re saying, but this specific group already does this to scale. Truth Social is an entire major SM company that, while not explicitly stated, serves to "own the libs*

      Even on the Fediverse there are whole Lemmy/mastodon instances dedicated to “owning the libs”, even this very community has allowed meme/mockery posts to “own the libs”

      Why are we not allowed to have a comm that does the same as long as it’s kept reasonable (i.e. no targeted attacks of a specific user)?

      “Taking the high road” has utterly failed with this group as they have demonstrated time and time again from nationwide down to hyper localized communities, that they will take advantage of that.

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        I think your proving my point. You have no intention of being a good faith moderator of a conservative community.

        You want to stick it to conservatives, fair enough, but I don’t think that fits lemmy.worlds mission for a community, and this it’s better to lock the community

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          What is .worlds mission for a comm?

          I’ve looked through the legal.Lemmy.world/ToS docs and there isn’t anything about mods who take over an abandoned community that needs to “maintain the spirit of the comm”

          There’s a brief blurb about not attacking specific users or groups, but if we go by that, then there’s quite a few different “circle jerk” like comms here that would fall under that and should also be locked

          If we go by the “vibes” of the .world user base at large, it’s quite clear that c/conservative as it was, was wholly unwelcome. Nearly every single post was downvoted into oblivion. It’s also quite clear that the meme posts made after it went modless are what’s welcome.

          If we judge it by the user base at large, the .world user base wants it to be a meme comm

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            Yeah attacking a group, that’s exactly what you’re doing.

            You’re confusing popular at scale, with correct for community. The tyranny of the majority is a problem on Lemmy.

            You can make your own new community, and you can say all the s*** you want to about conservatives. You’re just trying to take a space away from a group you don’t like. I get it, but it’s not right

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              Yeah attacking a group, that’s exactly what you’re doing.

              An LW admin is going to have to clarify what “group” means in the context of ToS, it’s quite ridiculous to ban dunking on a national/global group.

              You’re confusing popular at scale, with correct for community. The tyranny of the majority is a problem on Lemmy.

              There’s no such thing, this line of thinking is what led to the actual problem of the tyranny of the minority that plagues US Politics to begin with, but that’s veering off topic.

              It’s also not like we’re running off people who are coming in with good faith arguments and sound sources to begin with.

              You’re just trying to take a space away from a group you don’t like.

              Your initial post advocated for that exact outcome, “shutdown and locking” the comm is functionally equivalent to taking “a space away from a group you don’t like.”

              We’re not taking a space away, they are free to, and in fact already do, make their own instances. They do not have a right to spread their “content” everywhere they go like some sort of missionary.

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                The fact you have spend this thread downvoting me while we discuss what a good moderator would look like tells me your not the right fit to be a moderator.

                It’s clear your just looking for a fight, and you want to be a moderator to have a one sided fight with the very few actual conservatives on lemmy.

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                  Lmao, I thought we were having a decent debate, but ig you were unable to counter my latest points so you switched to complaining about…how I vote? Even though it’s clear others are downvoting you as well lol

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    .world c/conservative is unmodded now too! Post all the things they hate!

    OPs post history makes it very clear he doesn’t actually want to mod that community in good faith.

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      I spoke about this in another thread, but it seems like a very delicate balancing act to find the right moderator for that kind of community. To be a conservative is to be tolerant of fascists and Neo-Nazis to some degree. In the current political climate, it is inevitable that any right-leaning community will have elements of these abhorrent ideologies. I don’t think fascists and Neo-Nazis should be tolerated to exist in any space. No community as a whole is made safer by their presence, quite the opposite. So any moderator of a conservative community either must not be a conservative themselves or be one of the seemingly minority of conservatives that utterly disavow nationalists and bigotry, but this would put them in a position of poorly representing the community they moderate.

      It’s a tricky situation. And I’m not sure if there’s a solution that both makes sense and permits a conservative community to exist.

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        To be a conservative is to be tolerant of fascists and Neo-Nazis to some degree

        That is unfortunatly the truth for a lot of conservative parties around the world these days, but I don’t agree that one personally has to do that to be a conservative. So I really disagree with that sentiment.

        However I do agree that it is a very tricky situation indeed.

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          I’m not so sure. I think there are conservatives who truly believe themselves to be intolerant of fascists and bigots but, first and foremost, they are not representative of conservatives as a whole and therefore may not be best suited to represent and moderate a community of conservatives, and secondly, I’m reminded of the German saying about Nazis at the table. If there is a table of ten people and a Nazi sits down with them and no one leaves, there are 11 Nazis at the table.

          I’ll admit that this is a fairly American-centric view of conservatives and while it may be as you say, similar in other parts of the world, I honestly don’t know enough to agree with any certainty.

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        Half the problem is that the word fascist is completely overused. And the other half is a lot of people on Lemmy here convinced themselves that deporting illegal immigrants is fascism, when it simply isn’t.

        Trump is not a fascist, never was.

        Frankly, Lemmy is not a place for differing opinions, it’s a place for the far left to circlejerk.

        All I want to see out of this is honesty. If it’s not for conservatives, then don’t act like it is.

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      I have not posted any misinformation, I have pledged to clear up known misinformation spreader links such as Breitbart

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        I didn’t say you did. But you spend the entire morning spamming the community with memes intended to troll the members, exploiting the fact that it was unmodded and breaking rule 6. That’s not behaviour becoming of a mod anywhere and certainly not in a community which you ideologically oppose.

        But hey, not my decision, just providing some background info.

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          I see your point, however, in my view it has been abandoned with the only serious posters posting mostly misinformation and is open to be remade in “a new image”. In fact, it seems the only time “good” source links were posted (i.e. AP news) was after it went modless (for the most part)

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    i second this motion.
    also, to @remon@ani.social
    i see your position and i suggest you also moderate that community. Otherwise, just let others do it and react later if necessary.

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      i see your position and i suggest you also moderate that community

      Oh, I really don’t want to, sorry.