If you’re still using Chrome… What was it like hitting retirement age before 2008?
Jokes aside, Chrome really is the bottom of my list in the last several years. I’ve gotten the best functionality out of Firefox in the last while. Anyone else different?
I’ve been using Firefox since forever. It had its downs, but generally I’m happy with it. And with Multi account containers they’ve made sure I stay for life, it saves so much time.
How do multi-account containers differ from Chrome profiles?
Being able to have different containers in the same window?
When did they implement the containers?
I tried to use Firefox for work but I had to log into multiple AWS accounts at the same time, which I didn’t think was possible. It’s easy with profiles in the chromium browsers, trying to remember if I tried it in Firefox now
It’s easier in Firefox with containers. You can use multiple aws accounts on the same profile but different containers. I’ve tried to migrate to blink based browsers for various reasons, but this is what keeps me coming back to Firefox!
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firefox -P
I never stopped using Firefox
I use Firefox at home, but at work I use Edge as we use Microsoft for a lot of services. It’s actually surprisingly not bad ha ha.
The way they phrase the reasoning in their proposal is just disgusting! Like “Users want advertisers to be happy, and advertisers need …”, as if it’s all about what users want.
I actually strongly want advertisers to be angry. In fact the more upset advertisers are the happier I am.
This proposal absolutely infuriates me. This is making it so that you won’t be able to browse the web unless you are using “approved” hardware on an “approved” OS with an “approved” browser. You will have no freedom to control your computing. Even if your browser is open source it will barely matter because you won’t be able to patch it, you will need to run the approved binaries.
Fuck off and let me use the software I want.
This is SafetyNet from Android. You won’t be able to access your bank, your movies, your anything unless you are using hardware and software that is controlled by billion dollar corporations.
Advertisement is a fucking syphilis, a cancer and a gangrene combined. Don’t tell me what to watch what to visit
A part of me is kind of looking forward to it. It may be the breaking point to finally reduce my internet usage and get to implementing the Digital Minimalism, because I feel so strongly against this kind of bullshit that I refuse to use any website that keeps telling me what I can and can’t do. Once I don’t have control over what sites I want to support with ads, or what sites can track me and collect data about me - I will simply stop using it.
I’ve been slowly getting used to the reduced user experience caused by privacy-focused approach. Reddit and Youtube has taught me to just look elsewhere instead of logging in when prompted, LibreFox has got me used to having to relog-in every time i switch tabs due to containers and cookie autodelete, and the subscription bullshit for every smart product has taught me to reflash and self-host devices I can, so I already have a NAS and pretty comfy infrastructure ready.
But I still get drawn to some social networks, or end up mindlessly procrastrinating by browsing the web. This will finally be something not under my control (I tried Cold Turkey - it never lasted long) that will keep me out of the internet for good. It doesn’t really add much value to my life, blog posts and youtube tutorials have been reduced to absolute basics without any value, most of them now even AI generated. If I want to learn something about a topic, it’s hard to find actually interresting content that isn’t the same basics tutorial for dummies made for people without attention span who don’t want details, but just to feel like they are doing something smart with their time.
Now that I think about, it’s been a long time since I’ve actually found something of value on the internet, the discussions here on Lemmy are one of the last few things that I find interesting to engage with. But I’m too used to it to be able to quit on my own accord, and this may just be the push I need, to finally go all-in into the Digital Minimalism.
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I’ve had in my mind a political cartoon; two panels:
The first panel is The Free Market Ideal. Dozens of carts and woodend stands selling fresh fruit, food, hand made goods, etc. There’s lots of energetic people moving about and talking and haggling with merchants over prices and comparing prices and looking at all their choices.
The second panel is The Free Market Reality. A bunch of tired people standing in line for one of two computer terminals.
The truths portrayed is that there is no bargaining with the monopolies that dominate our markets, their processes are automated. This is not a market of equals, the people are tired and manipulated. As for choice, sometimes you can choose between 2 or 3 companies, sometimes there’s only 1 option.
The things that happen in a healthy free market are not happening.
This is the problem:
Exactly how the rest of the world feels about this is not necessarily relevant, though. Google owns the world’s most popular web browser, the world’s largest advertising network, the world’s biggest search engine, the world’s most popular operating system, and some of the world’s most popular websites. So really, Google can do whatever it wants. Other projects like Chrome’s “Privacy Sandbox” ad platform and the adblock-limiting manifest V3 have been universally panned, but Google has kept right on trucking with the projects. There have been some small project tweaks and delays, but Google keeps marching forward.
If the theory that consumers are rational actors were true, then the world would simply switch to a new “most popular web browser” etc anf Google’s hegemony would end.
Unfortunately that’s not how the world really works and plenty of people will sit there obediently being milked of their data and influenced in their behaviour.
Not keen on following these awful proposals. It feels like there’s a persistent trend of making the internet shiter than it was beforehand. I get alphabet has a vetted interest in ads and user data, but if they’re going to push for this tracking approach I guess it’ll be back to fix Firefox again
Silicon Valley Hubris. These companies got too big and act as if we don’t have choices. Web is still built on open standards no matter what. These are all attempts to graft on closed patterns on open infrastructure.
It worked with the media DRM that currently exists in browsers.
This is fucking sick. What is going on with the tech giants this year?! Twitter, reddit, YouTube…
They’re not getting the sweet funding they used to so now they actually have to be profitable.