• tomenzgg@midwest.social
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    9 days ago

    I wouldn’t even know where to buy milk that doesn’t come from factory farming.

    I mean, that’s fair – I expect a lot of people don’t or don’t bother to do the research – but that’s still, definitionally, a contextual framework and isn’t universal. The premise that dairy consumption is universally (in all possible circumstances) evil assumes these arguments always apply; and they don’t.

    You can get milk from a cow without harming the cow or violently ripping away her calf. Maybe it’s difficult, etc. But it’s not impossible. So such a universal argument is simply incorrect.

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        9 days ago

        I mean, – if the answer is I can’t – we probably shouldn’t be framing our arguments universally, then; especially when there are relatively easy counter examples that disapprove the universality.

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          8 days ago

          I would say that moral arguments against killing people aren’t universal, because they don’t apply in cases of self defense. Does that mean that it’s okay to kill people? No. It means that in most cases killing people is wrong.