• gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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    7 days ago

    IMO she lost because her entire platform was:

    • i’m a woman
    • i’m non-white
    • support trans rights

    none of that tackles the cost-of-living crisis, none of that gives people an economic future.

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      6 days ago

      To me her platform was:

      • I’m not Trump
      • I’m going to keep on doing what Biden was doing
      • Republicans you should vote for me because I’m not that different than you

      The bottom two is what really did her in. Being the status quo candidate when people aren’t happy with the status quo isn’t a winning strategy. Neither is ignoring your base to pander to a group of people who will never for vote for you.

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      6 days ago

      support trans rights

      Why do you surrender so easily to right-wing framing? What ads did she run supporting trans rights? What did she possibly do to make it an issue of her campaign?

      There were two sides on trans rights. On one side, we had literal Nazis. On the other, silence. You conclude that the side that stayed silent made their whole campaign about trans rights, which is completely delusional.

      Read the article. Kamala made her opinion of LGBT rights abundantly clear. She explicitly rejected Pete Buttigieg using the same logic a thousand other passive bigots I’ve met use. “I have no problem with queer people, but I can’t be near queer people because of what people might think of me.”

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      6 days ago

      Not sure why you’re downvoted when you’re absolutely right and Mamdani proved it too. People are suffocating under the economic pressure, they consider other issues less important until that one is resolved.

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      7 days ago

      The right was the side that wouldn’t stop talking about trans issues as if they were a pressing matter. More manufactured outrage from the side that has been manufacturing outrage from every non-issue for decades.

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      6 days ago

      Vs. a fascist dictator? It should have been a no-brainer, but instead it proved that a lack of brains is exactly what causes someone to choose not to vote or to protest via 3rd party nobodies.

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        6 days ago

        Trump is power because of the dumb lesser of two evil rhetoric that been used for over 100 years and the two party system. Most americans was dumb enough to think Trump was the less evil. 3rd party voters has zero effect on Trump winning so stop blaming them

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          5 days ago

          So, what you’re saying is that the third party vote sent no message or made no point?? Because I remember tons of people here crying about how their vote for a third party candidate was a clear message to establishment dems that didn’t do what was demanded of them.

          That if they weren’t perfect in every way- third party candidates would get their vote.

          Seems it was as ineffective and wasteful as we all said it would be.

          I appreciate that you’re at least being honest about it and that we can both agree that third party votes are pointless.

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            ​> So, what you’re saying is that the third party vote sent no message or made no point?? Because I remember tons of people here crying about how their vote for a third party candidate was a clear message to establishment dems that didn’t do what was demanded of them

            I don’t care about what the other people and I don’t care if it prove a point or not. You do what you think is the best that’s all.

            ​I hope you are not a defeatist in your own life and abandon any of your life goals because they are hard or may be impossible to do.

            ​What I see is people like you crying about third-party voters and blame them for losing to Genocide Trump, although results show that they wouldn’t make Harris win if they all voted for her. ​

            Seems it was as ineffective and wasteful as we all said it would be

            ​What is wasteful is all the money the two parties spend in campaigns then keep failing Americans. What is ineffective is having one of the dumbest politician Kamala Harris that has a terrible compaign on every single goddamn issue

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              And…… where are those 3rd party candidates now? Mind tell me what they’ve been doing to stand in the way of fascism lately??

              Stein? West? Not a fucking peep that I’ve heard.

              Actually, I’ve not heard a fucking word from ANY of them since they all turned to vapor back in November.

              So let’s not wax poetic about the bullshit promise of what a 3rd party candidate could do when they prove every fucking election to promise a lot of nonsense they have no place to promise, and then vanish when they are found wanting.