• Throwaway@lemm.eeOPM
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    11 months ago

    We have. Secure the border. Repeal the NFA. Go hard on crime. Voter ID. Parental rights. Outlaw Abortion (Among some of us, we arent a monolith) Outlaw Puberty Blockers (Again, among some). EVs (Among some) Enshrine the right to repair. Hell, even culture war shit, might as well throw in the guys who care way too much about movies and entertainment.

    I can go on, but I’m starting to get into the weeds here.

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      I’m really struggling to comprehend some of these.

      “Life sure is tough nowadays. I feel like the American dream is dead and I’m struggling to get by. If only the government could help.”

      “Don’t worry! I hear the government just [removed gun restrictions / made prison sentences longer / gave everyone an ID / outlawed abortion / outlawed puberty blockers / made showing gay things on tv illegal]!”

      “Finally! My life is sure to improve for the better!”

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        Life sure is tough nowadays. I feel like the American dream is dead and I’m struggling to get by. If only the government could help

        You’re aware that not everyone shares your point of view, and political opinions about what should be done, right? Because it just seems stupid to cry about a political party you don’t support anyway representing what people who disagree with you want the government to be doing.

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          “What policy do you think would improve people’s lives?”

          “Make the national anthem death metal”

          “Uhh alright that’s a weird one. I’m really not seeing how that would improve people’s lives”

          “Look man, not everyone shares your opinions”

          Yeah I get that, but that really doesn’t help me understand! I do understand some of the responses. Immigration policy changes? Sure. Not everyone’s going to agree on it, but I can see how it can effect the lives of the average person.

          How is banning puberty blockers going to improve the life of the average person? No judgement, I really honestly truly don’t understand. Everyone has more guns? What improves? I don’t get it!

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        Theres more than just the economy, but securing the border, deporting illegals, and raising tariffs will make things better for American workers. Hard to compete with cheap 3rd world countries.

        Hell you could go further and slow down the worker visa programs, although I’m not sure how many agree with me on that.

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      We have. Secure the border.

      You guys shot that down, because preventing Biden from having a win was more important.

      You guys pretty much admitted the panic over the border is not a priority, that it’s overblown. It’s just political theater.

      Repeal the NFA. Go hard on crime. Voter ID. Outlaw Abortion (Among some of us, we arent a monolith) Outlaw Puberty Blockers (Again, among some).

      Those are restrictions/undoing things, not actually building anything. Nor do they actually help people.

      Parental rights

      That’s some PR bullshit. All you guys are doing is outing LGBTQ youth, and destroying public education all under the guise of parental rights.

      EVs (Among some)

      What do you mean EVs?

      Enshrine the right to repair.

      https://www.coloradopols.com/diary/187908/republicans-celebrate-right-to-repair-that-they-opposed

      Hell, even culture war shit

      Culture war bullshit is not an example of the GOP building something up to help the average American. If you think that was a good example, no wonder the GOP never gets anything real done.

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        You guys shot that down, because preventing Biden from having a win was more important.

        Just parroting the line doesn’t make it true. The bill was shot down because it was fucking abysmal and wouldn’t actually accomplish anything. It was the bare minimum democrats had to do to try and shift the blame for problems they caused and refuse to fix. Not an actual solution.

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          The bill was shot down because it was fucking abysmal and wouldn’t actually accomplish anything.

          Right. Republicans were demanding it go through until the moment Trump said it was bad. But it was actually the result of it not accomplishing enough. /s

          Quit fooling yourself.

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            Up until a week ago nobody knew what was in it, dems were only releasing bullet points. Once people read it they opposed it.

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                You can read it for yourself and make your own decisions rather than relying on people who hate America to interpret it for you.

                Don’t worry I won’t rely on you to interpret it for me.

                The 4,000 number that triggers a border close doesn’t close it, it only gives the option to close it.

                (A) DISCRETIONARY ACTIVATION.—The Secretary may activate the border emergency authority if, during a period of 7 consecutive calendar days, there is an average of 4,000 or more aliens who are encountered each day.

                Then there’s the 5000 trigger but naturally there are exceptions.

                © An unaccompanied alien child. (D) An alien who an immigration officer determines, with the approval of a supervisory immigration officer, should be excepted from the border emergency authority based on the totality of the circumstances … (F) An alien who has a valid visa or other lawful permission to enter the United States, including— … (iv) an alien who presents at a port of entry pursuant to a process approved by the Secretary to allow for safe and orderly entry into the United States.

                Even those loopholes were not enough so they made sure they could ignore the mandatory closing.

                Whenever the border emergency authority is activated, the Secretary shall have the authority, in the Secretary’s sole and unreviewable discretion, to summarily remove from and prohibit, in whole or in part, entry into the United States of any alien identified in subsection (a)(3) who is subject to such authority in accordance with this subsection.>

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                    Yeah, which means there’s more stuff that you’d probably find appealing in it

                    Why do you automatically assume that people are supposed to agree with it by default? It’s seriously that unfathomable in your mind that someone could read it and decide it isn’t a good bill?

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                  I’m genuinely curious how you look at threads like this where he does nothing except be a total fucking condescending jackass and think “yeah, it’s reasonable to have this guy deciding who’s in good faith”

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        Gop != all conservatives. Again, not a monolith.

        You guys shot that down, because preventing Biden from having a win was more important.

        That bill would have made it worse.

        What do you mean EVs?

        ElectrIc vehicles. A lot of conservatives hate them and think we shouldnt be subsidizing them.

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          That bill would have made it worse.

          Zero explanation given, thanks. Really convincing.

          ElectrIc vehicles. A lot of conservatives hate them and think we shouldnt be subsidizing them.

          So hatred of electric vehicles makes the average american better off? What the fuck are you talking about?

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            We webt over this in an earlier post, didnt we?

            Also Im not going to pretend to fully understand ev hate, other than when assholes chop up classics to put in an ev drivetrain. I just put it in there because its usually conservatves who do it

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              I just put it in there because its usually conservatves who do it

              But what does it have to do with helping the average american?