It’s something I struggle with. Some bad news comes out about some public persona doing something shitty and they get cancelled. But sometimes I really struggle with giving up the things they’ve made because I like them. There are also occasions where the person has been accused of something and it doesn’t seem true to me, or I think they’re genuinely sorry and have been punished enough, and the context isn’t being considered.
What do you think? Who do you feel conflicted about enjoying?
Louis CK
I think the best thing that happened to Louis was his self-exile. If you recall…he didn’t actually get cancelled (well, his shows certainly did). He’s funny to this day and he’s got this built-in reason to stay humble. I thought Bill Burr was going to grab the mantle and stay great forever…but he just got too big and he’s not funny any more, a la Chapelle.
he knew ahead of time ported most of his content to an online site. BUT all these people went to saudia arabia comedy festival, so hes never been humble.
Humble should have been in parenthes.
Bill Burr I think just mostly solved his anger issues and that hurt his comedy more than anything. Good for him and his wife, even if his fame drops off eventually he’s fine financially and I’ll still enjoy his older specials and the F is for Family cartoon.
Not many agree with me though and that’s okay. I have a darker sense of humor, so he’ll probably just find a new audience. I’m more of a Doug Stanhope stan.
It’s disappointing that money seemed to have solved Burrs issues to the point where he’d take millions to sell out the little guy when he was already rich.
Standhope is a great comic…a little nihilistic for me as a dude tho. The good thing about him is he made a deliberate choice to tour atypical venues rather than give a solitary inch to stay in the clubs.
he sold out to suadia arabia.
That’s what I said.
I wasn’t aware Standhope went to Saudi Arabia. If you have different information…I’m open to it.
bill burr.
Doug didn’t I think they mean Bill Burr.
None of them actually get canceled. The only ones who even approach it are the miniscule few who were actually tried and convicted of their crimes. Which we really shouldn’t think of as canceled cause it is what is supposed to happen.
Well…what I would consider “cancelled” is when a comedian has shows/tours cancelled and/or can’t book a comedy venue…and that’s happened plenty of times, traditionally for being a right wing lunatic. ie Shane Gillis. It’s why the Rogansphere exists. All the shitty hacks who couldn’t book venues can now play at whatever his club is called, in addition to being a podcaster or a move star or influencer or whatever.
That didn’t happen to Louis CK…he chose to stop playing comedy clubs for a time.
I think you mean Lewis CK :)
I heard someone went on a date with him and he bought some insanely expensive watch on it. I think he didn’t deal with the loneliness of fame well.
Thanks, I noticed it was wrong as soon as I hit post. Yeah, seems like he didn’t deal with a lot of things too well. At least he seems genuinely contrite about his mistakes.
I’m not trying to apologize for his behavior, but in my read of the situation, he ASKED women if he could jerk off in front of them and sometimes did even without permission, but at no point does it seem like they were held hostage, touched physically or threatened. If he asked ME (hetero guy) I’d have just walked away and thought “what a weird asshole”.
The biggest problem is that he was in a position of power over those women and that makes it considerably harder to say no when the person asking could make or break your career.