• Neuromancer@lemm.eeOPM
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    8 months ago

    I doubt this was an issue in California with the confederate battle flag.

    I’ve never seen any state fly the confederate flag.

    Government buildings should only fly official government flags. While I support the blue line. It shouldn’t be flown at buildings. It’s not an official flag. Same with the rainbow flag or a plethora of other flags.

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      Blue line flags are a desecration of our country’s flag. Surprised conservatives aren’t ashamed about that.

      Come up with an original design, you know, like a pride flag :)

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            That is a variation. That isn’t the standard thin blue line flag . That also isn’t desecrating a flag.

            That is a flag built for a purpose.

            Maybe you’re not aware but the American flag isn’t black and white. It’s red, white and blue.

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              Idk, this is the one that’s flying at my local police dept… maybe there are more but I haven’t seen them tbh

              Have you read the flag code? This part is interesting:

              The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.

              One could argue that filtering to black and white is in itself a violation of the code lol

              Personally I don’t care and you can wipe your ass with a flag if you want. It’s conservatives who I thought were all about respecting flags. Then yall go and grayscale it and add a random line? Ugh

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                The venn diagram of “people who give a fuck about flag code enough to recite it” and “jerkoff leftists who proclaim to not care” is a flat circle

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                One could argue incorrectly a lot of things

                They are Compliant with the flag code. That isn’t the American flag. It would have to be an American flag then you add those things.

                I prefer the solid black with a blue line. That’s what I have in front of my house.

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      8 months ago

      Here are two examples:

      South Carolina

      Alabama (also discusses other states, such as how Mississippi and Georgia formerly had flags with a confederate flag embedded in the design)

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        Those are battle flags. That isn’t the confederate flag. At least looking at the photos those are just battle flags. Which are less appropriate than flying the flag for a government.

        My grandma had a battle flag but she never displayed it. It’s because it’s the battle flag her grandpa had in the civil war. Wish someone had the sense to donate it to a museum but I suspect it was disposed of.

        People often confuse the battle flag with the confederate flag. Battle flags were to identify units on the battlefield.

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          Those are battle flags. That isn’t the confederate flag.

          colloquial - used in ordinary or familiar conversation; not formal or literary

          It is the confederate flag. You know exactly what they meant. Doing an “um achktually” doesn’t rebut their point.

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          Why would that matter and why would a state house be flying a confederate battle flag either?

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            It’s a historical tradition. They’ve done it for a very long time. It’s to honor their state citizens who died in the war.

            I think people don’t get, after the war it was about reconciliation.

            The battle flag grew to represent anti-authority. That’s why it became part of the image of the southern outlaw.

            I see no need to fly it but then again I live in Oregon. We had no ties to the confederacy. I find it an odd relic myself.

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              Is that really what you believe? That they would fly the flag of their failed rebellious nation for reconciliation and not continued defiance? Wouldn’t showing full support for the US as a nation be more of a show of unity?

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                Considering it’s documented in history. Yes.

                It was a show of unity to respect the dead confederate soldiers but push the leadership out. That’s what happened.

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                  That’s funny you think things like that are “documented”. The South being pretty unhappy with the outcome of the war is “documented” too btw. So why would they still be flying it in 2015? Why honor vets killed in a treasonous rebellion 160 years ago and not say, WW1, WW2, Vietnam, Korea, Iraq or Afghanistan? How about a POW MIA flag?