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  • LeninWeave [none/use name, any]@hexbear.net
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    26 days ago

    You’re right technically, what I really meant was that they were LARPing as bourgeois. They’re not bourgeois if they don’t employ others. Without being bourgeois, “business owner” is a technicality and the only effect of using it to describe oneself is that it (attempts to) liken oneself to the actual bourgeoisie (the LARP). They are freelance photographers, not “photography business owners” because they make money by taking photographs, not owning a photography business.

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      Ik its a small detail but the petty bourgeoisie are defined by the characteristic that they have to work as well as owning their own means of production. The freelance photographer is technically petty bourgeoisie as much as it just means they have the privilege of exploiting themselves.

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        i think they would be the artisan class. they don’t employ anyone, and there isn’t a clear path they all follow to get there. it’s likely their “business” will never expand beyond them. so they aren’t affected as much by labor disputes or property stuff as the petty bourgeoisie. therefore they aren’t as inclined to erratic change or reaction as the petty bourgeoisie. not that they don’t have some reactionary tendencies on occasion. especially when they start getting proletarianized. this is a good article i read about that https://polclarissou.com/boudoir/posts/2023-02-03-Artisanal-Intelligence.html

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        They can be considered petty bourgeois, yes, though IMO “artisan” is more specific and useful, as @[email protected] said. A common characteristic of the petty bourgeois is that they seek to identify themselves with the “haute” bourgeoisie, which is what freelance photographers who employ no other people are doing when they describe themselves as “photography business owners”.

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        The bourgeois (capitalists) are defined by their exploitation of labour

        The petty bourgeois are defined by having to work as well as exploiting labour.

        The haute bourgeois no longer needs to work because they employ sufficient labour to produce enough surplus for them to live on

        Artisans own property but do not employ labour. They do not exploit workers and are therefore not bourgeois.

        As property owners, they are not wage labourers and have some stake in the perpetuation of property

        But until they employ labour they have no direct conflict of class interests with the working class.

        As a class they will waver more than proletarians bc their class interests are still attached to the preservation of property, but less than the petite bourgeois because they have no class interest in exploitation