I had someone steel this and change “butts” to “Christian” and weirdly enough, lengthen my skirt. Kept the flame boots, but no short skirts.

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          I’m gonna need you to engage in just a little more abstract thinking for me. I’m not talking about racism either.

          Let’s try another thing instead: “Got hates fags”

          How about: “Jews did 9/11”

          It’s pretty easy to say “free speech! I can say whatever I like!! I’m not responsible for your hurt feelings!” without any nuance, but speech is a bit more complicated than that.

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        Because it’s a short comic, it doesn’t have the time to go into the nuances. One word has a long history of being used to dehumanize an “other” group and the other just a word for a body part. If body parts offend you as much as racial slurs, you may have your own issues.

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          Still missing the point

          If this logic can be used to defend race hate, then maybe the logic isn’t sound

          Also, if the issue is too nuanced for you to convey in a short comic, maybe don’t make a short comic about it

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            If the only argument against something is that it’s offensive and they can’t rationalize it at all, the argument can be thrown out. That’s all the comic is about.

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              That’s just rationalisation. To me, this comic highlights the absurd logic of bigots and free speech absolutists. “Offensive to everyone” is an impossible standard to meet; bigots are obviously never going to be offended by bigotry, so even hate speech doesn’t meet that threshold.

              Also, it’s never just “butts”, and it’s never just a single person, so it’s a bit of a misrepresentation.

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                Bigots can’t rationalize their bigotry. At least not in a way that can’t be torn apart. They always end up using circular logic, which is what the comic is address.

                I’m “offended” at racism because it creates an unsafe culture for everyone involved. I can cit research about the effects of generational racism leading to higher crime for instance.

                They’re offended at the sight of black people being able to use the same water fountain as them. They can’t tell me why, which is why their argument ends at their “offense” and is the scenario the comic is about.

                Also, it’s never just “butts”

                I’ve seen people online get offended at the bumper sticker “Fuck Cancer”.

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            Hate speech is a call to attack some people.

            It may sometimes sound like “just offensive”, since it often uses offensive code words to coordinate an attack.