• Paragone@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    To me it is the misframing of it that is the problem:

    IF a person holds 2 bent wires, or a pair of sticks, or a y-shaped piece of willow, or whatever, & they walk around & to them it feels like something’s going through it when they’re over moving-water or moving-electricity ( I’ve a relative who tells me he can’t tell the difference between the 2, from the dowsing: they give him identical signal )…

    THEN you can’t claim that it is some property-of-matter-divorced-from-their-unconscious-minds!!

    THEY are the ones doing it: THEIR unconscious-minds are immersed in all they are doing.

    If their unconscious-minds can somehow make accurate determinations, and communicate that determination through the “feelings” they feel when holding their dousing-rods … how is that pseudoscience?

    Scientism’s falsely pretending to be Science bugs me.

    The prejudice encoded in “matter cannot produce that result, & OF COURSE their minds have no validity, ESPECIALLY THEIR UNCONSCIOUS MINDS… so therefore NO kind of mind can possibly have any place in the scientific understanding of anything…”

    …prejudice isn’t Science.

    IF a phenomena is produced by a mixture of mind & matter, especially a mixture of unconscious-mind & conscious-mind & matter,

    THEN correct science has to study each of the dimensions of the system, correctly, & the way they’re interacting.

    Prejudice, however ideologically-“proper” or currently-fashionable, isn’t Science.

    Anyways, I’ll never expect to see the “skeptics” do proper science, when their physicalist-existentialist ideology can “solve” everything much more conveniently, to them…

    Ideology & prejudice are inseparable: they’re opposite sides of the same “coin”.