This article goes into more detail about how these new measures will actually work compared to the blog post earlier this year from Google. Namely:
- Enabling the OEM unlocking setting will no longer prevent FRP from activating.
- Bypassing the setup wizard will no longer deactivate FRP. FRP restrictions will apply until you verify ownership of the device by signing in.
- Adding a new Google account is blocked.
- Setting a lock screen PIN or password is blocked.
- Installing new apps is blocked.
Sounds like good ideas that’ll be a pain in the ass for innocent power users.
Until they sign back in to their own phone…? How is that a pain?
Not eveyrone has or needs a google or any system-wide account to use their phones.
And if you don’t sign into Google, the protections won’t activate, and you won’t have a problem.
I should have provided more info. I am not defending that FRPs should not exist, rather that there should be an option to utilize them without an account.
Graphene devs are considering using a random code similar to an account restoration.
That makes a lot of sense. I like the GrapheneOS approach to these things.
I hope they can figure something out that’ll be user friendly that’s also recoverable if your forget the password. Wouldn’t want to put myself in a “lost my key, guess I can never sell my phone now” situation.
This assumes everything works fine. It’s probably an edge case, but on my Nexus 6P an update somehow messed with my encryption keys, and the screen lock pattern that I’d used for over a year stopped getting recognised. I can’t remember the solution but I vaguely remember having to factory reset. Whatever the solution was, it wasn’t too different to what a thief would do… I was bypassing the screen lock after all.
because I want to get rid of google, and not use or even have a google account anymore
If you don’t sign into a Google account, you will never arm this mechanism at all.
Then don’t buy their devices? What a novel solution.
Who’s devices? This is not a manufacturer dependent thing.
Android is useful without any google built-in software, and unfortunately it’s not affordable to avoid having a smartphone in today’s world.
If you wanted to say to not buy Android devices, all I can say is you are very ignorant. And ignorance is a lot of things but novel.
I do not know if your being sarcastic, ignorant, or lazy, but there are other companies out there that produce cheap phones with operating systems other than android.
Who please? All I know of are Apple, or Nothing Phone- they’re not cheap IMO.
Genuinely interested though, I’d love to deGoogle.
Since you asked nicely:
https://pine64.com/product-category/pinephone/
https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/
https://shop.puri.sm/shop/librem-5/
https://www.kaiostech.com/explore/devices/
https://shop.jolla.com/details/91eb91d3-c3de-41d0-b3c0-7075a339112d/
There’s a reason iOS and Android OS both dominate the market: they do literally everything all these phones attempt to do but better in pretty much every single way, including the ability to easily de-Google ironically.
Aha! I have heard of Pinephone. Had forgotten them. Will investigate these others. Cheers!
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Looks like they “just” have to stop signing in with a Google account, and may have to enable adb and install apps using it / e.g. Shizuku