You know how people looked at the dumb decisions of #StocktonRush and said don’t get in the #Titan ?

Don’t get into an #ElonMusk #Tesla or #SpaceX

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    I’m pretty happy just using Lemmy and discord, I deleted Twitter and reddit because of recent events, it’s definitely helped keeping my screen time down and discord typically leads to more fulfilling conversations imo

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      I just need a good worldnews and news sub on lemmy and I’ll be set. I enjoy following the Ukraine war through the worldnews sub.

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          Thanks! Memmy is an amazing app so far! Loving it. Feels exactly like Apollo it’s a shame Christian didn’t wanna head over to Lemmy.

          I just love solid megathreads on Reddit worldnews to follow along with everything about the war. That I’ll miss the most.

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        Unfortunately, Discord can’t be replaced right now. All my gaming friends are using it and I don’t see any FOSS software that can replace it right now.

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          Irc + mumble used to be my goto 15 years ago. It would still work, but understandably a bit less refined

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        If you care about keeping your data private then why are you on the fediverse? Everything here is public. Anyone can datamine if they want. And you can’t even delete your data if you want (since there are backups on different instances). Even your DM’s can be read by the admins of your or the recipients instance.

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        I’d love to, but there’s no equivalent. My friend group and I need voice channels with ACL, streaming support, video chat support, and webhook/bot support.

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          Check out Revolt, it’s basically a Discord clone without the bullshit. Matrix is getting close to being full replacement, but still lacks some features.

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          Guilded or Revolt seem like good alternatives if you can convince your entire community to move over, might still have privacy issues but I’m not really sure.

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            Moving to a different closed source platform feels pointless at this point, but maybe Lemmy is spoiling me

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              This right here. Honestly, if we’re taking the time to hop platforms and start bolstering the next wave of popular sites and services, why make the same mistake again as the last time around?

              No matter how much a company talks about how ethical they want to be or how much they value doing the right thing for their clients, once money enters the picture on a wider scale and people start looking in the direction of an eventual IPO, everything goes to shit.

              Meanwhile, IRC is still working just fine. No degradation of services after decades. You can still throw your own ircd up on a $3/mo VPS and be golden.

              Moving everything to open source, decentralized platforms can only be a boon for all of us in the long run. Anything less is just kicking the problem down the road a little.

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      Elongated Muskrat throttling legitemate twitter users to keep AI out the door seems to be a good thing for the Fediverse & Mastodon in particular.

      Plus that makes two services on their way to the grave on the guise of “keeping AI out.” *slow clap*

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      I had a Twitter account for about a week that I posted with, after that I made a new one and never posted. The most toxic disgusting social media site I have ever been on. The one and only good thing about it was how the local governments where I lived used to make all announcements with it. I plan to bring my kids to the reading event at the library, better check Twitter. Oh it got moved an hour later. Also the local mass transit system used it.

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    Maybe the super-rich want Twitter gone because they saw how it was used to organise protests during the Arab Spring. Musk is just the guy making it happen.

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      Or maybe some branch of Operation Mindfuck is converting rich silicon valley cryptobro jackasses into useful idiots to trigger an open source social media revolution.

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      I said this when the sale first happened. Those billionaire Saudis didn’t loan him the 8 bil needed to finance the sale, they gave it to him as payment for a job. And it’s 100% the long tail of the Arab spring reaction

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    It seems they’re just trying to make it seem intentional when really, they’re just struggling now that their Google Cloud contract has expired.

    In 2018, Twitter signed a $1 billion contract with Google to host some of its services on the company’s Google Cloud servers. Platformer reports Twitter recently refused to pay the search giant ahead of the contract’s June 30th renewal date. Twitter is reportedly rushing to move as many services off of Google’s infrastructure before the contract expires, but the effort is “running behind schedule,” putting some tools, including Smyte, a platform the company acquired in 2018 to bolster its moderation capabilities, in danger of going offline. Engadget, June 11, 2023

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      • fire most your staff
      • boost shit content, hide real content
      • force users whove blocked you to see your content anyways
      • refuse to pay your contractors / services

      Elon ‘the genius’ Musk

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    I wonder if reddit, twitter and youtube all got around a table one day and decided that no, actually, screw the users entirely.

    Because they are all doing really bizzare things.

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          That’s usually a reference to fit and finish, but there have been several of them that have caught on fire. But they basically require subscription fees and refuse to use physical controls for important systems.

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            I am never going to give up my boring 2008 Honda civic. I will just repair it until I die. Cars sucked when I was a kid and they suck now. The only things that changed

            • The radio is a distracting touchscreen
            • The keys are confusing
            • They catch on fire from battery problems
            • The extended warranty is getting more extended and non-optional
            • You can’t just buy 3rd party parts or fix it yourself or bring it to the mechanic of your choice.

            The future of cars is the apple model. Except generally speaking apple products work. It would be one thing if they were putting out cars that had triple the fuel efficiency.

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    Once Musk took over Twitter, and he opened his day with firing half his staff, we kinda knew he was going to enshittify Twitter into irrelevance. Now we’re watching as the world catches up and seeks alternative platforms for general announcements.

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    This might actually get more people to move to Mastodon as the influencer accounts will want as many eyeballs as possible instead of only people with a twitter account, and these companies are rich enough to setup their Mastodon instance where they get to control their content instead of Musk.

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      Unfortunately, I’m just seeing a wave of “here’s my Bluesky account” tweets from the few holdouts I still followed on Twitter.

      That’s cool and all, Mr/Ms Internet Celebrity, but none of us peasants have access to that site.

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        People are going to want to try different things, as it’s complete chaos right now since the foundations of Internet advertising is being shaken to its core because of all the centralized services are making one bad decision after another.

        New forms of marketing will definitely emerge from this, we just don’t know what yet, but setting up a Mastodon or Lemmy server should be trivial for these large media companies, and they won’t have to deal with verification anymore.

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    I do not understand his logic. It could be due to coding issues but his vague statement plus all the antics since he took over is just very suspect. Feels like he is working on another money grab idea.

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      It’s about making it more difficult to get access to download all of Twitter for use in training AI. chatGPT was trained using Twitter and Reddit. And large language models like chatGPT are HUGE money makers and have insane potential. The AI industry is exploding right now, so Twitter, Reddit, and others are adjusting how you can access their content so they can charge big companies money for the right to use their data.

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        Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure reddit allowed openAI to train on their network and Musk was a big donor of OpenAI. So wouldnt these API changes be to monopolize the market since OpenAI has access to both these sites and is the leader in the field.

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      t could be due to coding issues

      It’s self inflicted. This is what happens when you turn API’s off or make them unaffordable.

      instead of using a low resource API entry, sites now switch to full on scraping which uses huge amounts of resources.

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      He’s probably not really focused on Twitter but focused on using Twitter staff for getting X.com ready so they do a huge rebrand.

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        That does make sense, which haven’t they been running on a skeleton crew for months now? Also, what is up with the weird obsession with “X”?

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          Maybe he can’t upgrade to Wayland.

          (sorry about the unsolicited Linux joke)

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          Twitter went from like 7000 employees down to 1000. So skeleton crew for sure. There’s also speculation that they didn’t migrate all the data off Google cloud services so they lost a bunch of data as the contract ended June 30th.

          As for the X thing no idea his obsession I’d probably guess he thinks he’s like the modern day iron man or professor Xavier for the gifted with x men.

          I’ll give credit where credit is due he’s really good at being able to raise capital but in terms of actual business execution he falls flat to me.

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      Already seen some screenshots from people trying to reddit in their mobile browser, despite being logged in. Their popup had the classic ‘View in App’, but the ‘Continue in browser’ was replaced with ‘Take me outta here’ or something to that effect, and would take them to the previous page in their browser.

      I can appreciate this distinction on NSFW content without a logged in user, because of concerns with age verification. But it seems some users were part of a selected testing group to migrate users into the app almost completely.

      Considering that Firefox browser can block ads on reddit (and that browser reddit still runs better than app reddit) there’s definitely pressure for Reddit to drive users to their app with a stick. They certainly don’t offer carrots.

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    I could never understand what drew people to Twitter. I just want to stab myself in the eyes everytime I end up there.

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      It’s the same thing that makes any social media attractive: everybody else is there and it’s where things are happening. This critical mass of users is the hardest thing for a website to gain and the hardest to lose.

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      I feel like part of what caused it to explode is that some celebrities joined up early and it provided a tangible way for fans to interact directly with them. This was totally novel and completely unprecedented. Prior to Twitter you could watch Entertainment Tonight and read People magazine. Twitter let you directly contact celebrities.

      I really couldn’t care less about celebrities, which I have always thought is part of why Twitter has always felt kind of pointless to me.

      But I fully recognize that for some people that’s a huge draw and I do think it’s a big part of what makes Twitter popular.

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      Each time a platform reaches enough popularity to attract an average voter, people starts to blame the platform for being stupid. I’m waiting for the day we collectively realize it’s not the platform we hate, it’s the average person.

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    Maybe Elon is playing 4D Chess and trying to stop people from turning into Terminally Online Twitter Radicals.

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    Crawlers and scrapper bots consume a fuckload of traffic, that much is true. But I think it’s a bit too late, there’s already enough “twitter warehouse of posts in X language” to feed most AI needs, at least for coming up with short answers.

    Also, I can’t believe Elon did something that could be generally seen as a good thing overall (forcing people to spend less time on twitter)