• Björn Tantau@swg-empire.de
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    17 hours ago

    The game is bad because of bad writing not because of politics.

    BG 3 is even more “woke” and it’s great.

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      15 hours ago

      The game is bad because it’s repetitive and just not fun to play, which are design flaws.

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        14 hours ago

        I’ve been having fun with it but I wanted a hack and slashy fantasy game that wasn’t depressingly “souls like”. This kinda scratches that itch.

        The taash bits are a little on the nose sometimes with the gender stuff but it’s really not a big deal or a lot of the game.

        I really like the deep lore of the game though I haven’t played any of them since like the first one or two. I like how the dialogue “feels” but I don’t think there is much of an impact on how you behave other than key events, and sometimes there’s a little too much dialogue, but it does seem to flow like real conversations with good voice acting a lot better than other rpgs I’ve played. And it’s beautiful, the maps are sandboxy but layered. Some stuff is time gated so I’ll be trying to figure out how to get somewhere only to give up and it be available later.

        Anyway I’d give it like a 7 or 8 at this point

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      16 hours ago

      Woke is fine if it doesn’t break immersion. In BG3 it feels like part of the in game universe. In dragon age it feels like it was just forced in like “hey look how progressive we are” and it’s just very tiresome

      It reminds me of the runescape pride parade. The whole community was mad not because they are anti gay it’s just not a place for blatant real life political stuff when we are all playing for the sole purpose of escaping real life

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        16 hours ago

        The whole game has bad dialogue. It sounds stiltet or like a bad Marvel movie no matter what they talk about.

        Also, including gay characters is only political if it is something you object to. Are black characters also political?

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          including gay characters is only political if it is something you object to. Are black characters also political?

          Exactly. I’m never even aware of these controversies until I see people whining about it online, because a gay or trans character in a video game means literally nothing to me. Why would I care?

          And there are people that it does matter to; representation in media is important. So that’s just all positives and no negatives in my mind.

          Also makes for more variety in plots and settings. Win/win/win.

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          The problem is blatant references to the real world in a fantasy game. The game literally goes out of its way to remind you that you are playing a human made video game.

          With better writing this wouldn’t be a problem, I agree

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        Things that break immersion for some gamers:

        1. Main character isn’t a white cishet male

        2. NPCs that don’t reinforce the primacy of white cishet males

        3. Acceptance of non-cis/het people in a story involving fantasy creatures that is otherwise totally believable, well-written, and, above all, where only this scene is clumsily delivered (and not the fact the supporting character’s hat appears to be a folded bird)

        No sarcasm in the third point at all. (Edit: That’s more sarcasm where I’m indicating I’m being sarcastic in point three)

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          16 hours ago

          Otherwise well written? This game is trash. Go replay an older dragon age if you forgot what good writing is

          Do you actually just assume random people are racist for zero reason in your day to day life? I couldn’t help but go into your profile and I laughed when you complained about toxicity on lemmy.

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            I’ve been working on being more civil online, so be assured the following is a much kinder response than that which I was initially inclined to:

            🤡

            Plus the bit about “I went on your profile and couldn’t help laughing about…” It absolutely puts the big red nose on the clown. How are you writing all of this? Aren’t cell phones banned for students in school in the US? Are you skiving off?

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              I’m honestly unsure what you’re upset about lol

              How do you know if someone is worth blocking if you don’t vet them a bit

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            I made a mistake: point three was dripping with sarcasm, so I followed with a line meant to highlight this, but I unthinkingly wrote it in the same highly sarcastic manner.

            Do you actually just assume random people are racist for zero reason in your day to day life?

            I have no idea what you’re trying to infer. Please tell me this isn’t a prelude to “all racism has some truth to it”.

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              15 hours ago

              Like which gamers exactly are upset about non white npcs?

              I don’t understand the relevance of bringing up race here unless you meant to infer that’s something which bothers me in games