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So far, Americans using RedNote have said they don’t care if China has access to their data. Viral videos on TikTok in recent days have shown Americans jokingly saying they will miss their personal “Chinese spy,” while others say they are purposefully giving RedNote access to their data in a show of protest against the wishes of the U.S. government.

“This also highlights the fact that people are thirsty for platforms that aren’t controlled by the same few oligarchs,” Quintin said. “People will happily jump to another platform even if it presents new, unknown risks.”

  • watty@lemm.ee
    523·
    16 hours ago

    I used to think that the perceived complexity of the fediverse was creating a hurdle for more adoption.

    Now all these fucking people are learning Chinese to better use RedNote.

    Apparently convenience isn’t actually a barrier? I’m baffled why so many people are flocking to anything other than the fediverse.

    • AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee
      7·
      8 hours ago

      A big barrier is the UI, the default lemmy UI is terrible.

      The apps aren’t great either, I’m very techy and haven’t found one feels as nice as reddit (and the reddit app has many issues)

      Normies just aren’t going to push past all those barriers

    • xor@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      7·
      11 hours ago

      show me a federated system that has a bunch of cool tiktoky videos….
      afaik, it’s mostly text and that much data would be a huge problem

      • Amon@lemmy.world
        93·
        11 hours ago

        Loops by Pixelfed

        IMO it is DOA because the whole point of TikTok is the feed algorithm. You’re not supposed to pick what to watch, the algorithm knows your interests. The idea of TikTok therefore is fundamentally unethical and any libre alternatives will be hindered by the fact that users want the unethical part which no developer should or wants to implement.

        • Korne127@lemmy.world
          8·
          7 hours ago

          I don’t see why the concept should be unethical.

          In practice, of course it is insanely unethical as the algorithms are designed to maximize view time which leads to algorithmic radicalization and hate spreading more quickly, but the concept of an algorithm knowing and learning what you like and selecting for you itself isn’t unethical.

          • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
            1·
            7 hours ago

            It’s expensive for video though.

            In other words, I have a hard time seeing Pixelfed with a high quality “benign” TikTok algorithm. It’s already possible for music, but video data\analysis is just so voluminous that, without the profitable exploitation backing it, I don’t see how they’d pay for it.

          • Septimaeus@infosec.pub
            11·
            7 hours ago

            I don’t see why the concept should be unethical

            I give every dog I meet all the peanut butter it can eat no matter what every time whether or not the dog is mine

      • witten@lemmy.world
        5·
        11 hours ago

        It’s marketing, but it’s also the value proposition. Average Joes don’t see the value in decentralization, privacy, or the freedom from corporate control. Although that may change under an authoritarian regime…

      • the_weez@midwest.social
        15·
        16 hours ago

        I agree. You have to either be in the tech sphere or privacy sphere to know about fediverse apps. Outside of reddit refugees I don’t think anyone using the normal apps know about fediverse options or what that even means to be decentralized. I don’t think it’s really a functionality or convenience issue, we really need our own special interest groups or something to help with fedi app branding and PR. Not sure if that is even something that is crowd sourceble?