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  • DankZedong @lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    My city just refused a pro Palestina protest that was planned tomorrow. The same city of which the far right mayor today remembered Israeli victims and called Palestina’s uprising terrorism. The same city of which the police force has recently been trained by the Israeli police force.

    The protest is still happening, albeit at a different place. And I’ll be going.

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        1 year ago

        Saw your comment about Western laws and such just now. You are right and it makes me a bit nervous for doing things like protest. The governments here are pro Israel and they are making that very clear. It’s what their class interests tell them to do and they have the law and the law enforcement at their side.

        But at the same time it’s easy to yell Free Palestina and antifascism when things are relatively quiet. It’s only when things get heated, like now, that these words can get a meaning. And I don’t want to back down despite whatever danger I may face. Because if I do, they win anyway.

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          It’s hard, isn’t it? I wasn’t sure whether to hit ‘Reply’ on that one as I didn’t want it to be read as ‘don’t openly support Palestine’. We’ve just got to be careful about it. Avoid letting our enemies trap us into publicly supporting ‘terrorist groups’, because that could get you arrested at a protest, for example. Not that our enemies won’t impose a false equivalence on us, anyway.

          Keeping it slightly vague should be safe enough, I’d imagine. One of the good things about the performativity of liberalism is that it means some level of performativity is acceptable; and supporting Palestine is a part of that for many. Not for enough people, but for many. Lord knows there are enough crimes committed against Palestinians to protest all day every day about their treatment without needing to weigh up the actions of Hamas at a rally.

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            You dont want to lose any of it in case of violence, otherwise it’s evidence that places you at the scene, and you dont want creep cops to “confiscate” anything for the same reason.

            You don’t want to be seen with bulging pockets (or even worse carrying any sort of backpack/fannypack, etc) because that makes you a target for cops. Even worse, they can plant things in bags or wallets.

            At the bare minimum, carrying no ID when chaos erupts, means cops might let you go to avoid the work, hunt down other easier-to-arrest protestors or gives you the option to give a fake name, then make a run for it.

            Source: experience with Greek protests.