As I said, the argument was if the USSR was autocratic. Noone disagrees rather or not they were socialists nor they make offical statments they intended on working toward communism.
But its very clear that the leadership was very autocratic and anti-democractic and only accepted undying loyalty.
It isn’t clear at all, actually, and your dedication to vaguely gesture at Wikipedia articles doesn’t discredit that. I don’t see how not allowing liberals, fascists, or Tsarists into government is synonymous with “only accepting undying loyalty.”
I mean, im not the one trying to make a claim that they were democratic while forbiding any ideology that opposes theirs. The mental gymnastics involved here could be the next Olympic event.
Fascism, Capitalism, and Monarchism should be allowed within a Socialist system why? The economy was far more democratic than under the Tsars or under the current Russian Federation. Democracy doesn’t have to include freedom for fascists, the bougeoisie, or monarchists, and in fact shouldn’t for the Proletariat to have full control.
Who is the proletariat but people? What if they wanted any of those things? Their ideas are qlworthless because they dont fit your very narrow view? You are no better than the US republicans who label everyone they dont like as “communists”.
The Proletariat is the people indeed, and the people supported the purges. They had already spent years in a civil war against the Tsarists, were invaded by 14 Capitalist nations, and fascists in Nazi Germany were killing Communists from day 1. The re-introduction of Capitalism resulted in 7 million excess deaths.
Yes, Monarchism, Capitalism, and fascism are worthless.
Sounds like anti-fascism, anti-capitalism, and anti-monarchism is… fascism? Do you read what you write? Again, I’ll direct you over to Dr. Michael Parenti’s Blackshirts and Reds.
Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.
authoritarian: check
dictatorial leader: check
militarism: check
forcible suppression of opposition: check
subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation: check
strong regimentation of society and the economy: check
It may claim to be a turkey, but its seems to be clucking a lot like a chicken.
As I said, the argument was if the USSR was autocratic. Noone disagrees rather or not they were socialists nor they make offical statments they intended on working toward communism.
But its very clear that the leadership was very autocratic and anti-democractic and only accepted undying loyalty.
It isn’t clear at all, actually, and your dedication to vaguely gesture at Wikipedia articles doesn’t discredit that. I don’t see how not allowing liberals, fascists, or Tsarists into government is synonymous with “only accepting undying loyalty.”
I mean, im not the one trying to make a claim that they were democratic while forbiding any ideology that opposes theirs. The mental gymnastics involved here could be the next Olympic event.
Fascism, Capitalism, and Monarchism should be allowed within a Socialist system why? The economy was far more democratic than under the Tsars or under the current Russian Federation. Democracy doesn’t have to include freedom for fascists, the bougeoisie, or monarchists, and in fact shouldn’t for the Proletariat to have full control.
Who is the proletariat but people? What if they wanted any of those things? Their ideas are qlworthless because they dont fit your very narrow view? You are no better than the US republicans who label everyone they dont like as “communists”.
The Proletariat is the people indeed, and the people supported the purges. They had already spent years in a civil war against the Tsarists, were invaded by 14 Capitalist nations, and fascists in Nazi Germany were killing Communists from day 1. The re-introduction of Capitalism resulted in 7 million excess deaths.
Yes, Monarchism, Capitalism, and fascism are worthless.
Sounds a lot like facism in a trench coat.
Sounds like anti-fascism, anti-capitalism, and anti-monarchism is… fascism? Do you read what you write? Again, I’ll direct you over to Dr. Michael Parenti’s Blackshirts and Reds.
Lets see here… the definition of facism
authoritarian: check
dictatorial leader: check
militarism: check
forcible suppression of opposition: check
subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation: check
strong regimentation of society and the economy: check
It may claim to be a turkey, but its seems to be clucking a lot like a chicken.