Especially for the less tech-savvy among us?

  • Xanza@lemm.ee
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    10 hours ago

    Unless you obfuscate tor traffic, it’s trivial to block it via any number of IDS products. The entirety of public tor exit nodes are publicly available: https://check.torproject.org/torbulkexitlist

    Here’s tor exit node blocking in production with 14 lines of bash

    It’s significantly easier than you’ve obviously been led to believe. When it becomes not easy is when someone understands the protocol and understands how to circumvent these measures, but I can assure you that 99.8% of all tor users don’t fall within that category…

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      9 hours ago

      oh sure, but you can get around these blocks and this sort of block is ultimately always a possibility short of building your own network infrastructure. and as blocks like that become more common it becomes more common to circumvent them too.

      “significantly harder than youve been lead to believe”, no, you just werent clear in your description of the problem. if your problem with tor is “governments can play whack-a-mole blocking ips and traffic” there is no technology which doesnt have that as a downside.

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        8 hours ago

        but you can get around these blocks

        They create a better ad, so they create a better adblock, which forces them to discover anti-adblock methods, which forces adblocker’s to adapt, which forces anti-adblocker’s to adapt, ad infinitum.

        This isn’t anything new. Of course you can circumvent these blocks, but they can always adapt to make them useful again. It’s not a good argument at all.

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          8 hours ago

          Yes, i point out whackamole in my comment. It’s a completely useless critique of tor/briar because there is no alternative which cannot also be critiqued like this, and there can never be.

          you might as well say “well the problem with keyboards is that someone needs to ship it to you.”