Aren’t you hurting the person by harming their property?
I’m asking if we can go after every American since America does shit things? So spray paint their doors and houses, throw paint on their clothes, dump garbage in front of their doors.
Obviously thats silly because we don’t know if that particular American supports the fascist right running the USA. It’s also silly saying wrecking every Tesla is right.
Aren’t you hurting the person by harming their property?
Lol, no. Property does not have feelings, nor is a person driving a near 6 figure vanity truck going to experience undue financial instability by having their property vandalized.
I’m asking if we can go after every American since America does shit things?
Another false equivocation… Did every American choose to be American? Or do you think being born is the same as choosing to empower a fascist?
Obviously thats silly because we don’t know if that particular American supports the fascist right running the USA.
No, it’s just a stupid comparison to begin with. Again, the important aspect you continue to ignore is that owning a particular piece of property is a choice, and the people who can afford cyber trucks aren’t going to be financially destroyed by buying a different car. Meaning they choose to perpetuate their choice.
It’s more like if a billionaires 3rd mansion gets burned down, you’re not really that sorry for them are you? It’s a magnitude of difference as to how it effects someone, and I don’t see any lower middle class people driving cyber trucks.
So you’re just ignoring the rest of the argument…?
Again, your claim only contains an iota of weight if you grossly over generalize and disregard nuance.
A home is not the same as a luxury vehicle. My home wasn’t built by a neo Nazi, nor does it enrich a neo Nazi. My home hasn’t been turned into a dog whistle for fascist who want to enrich their favorite neo Nazi. You do not become homeless when someone vandalizes your 100k vanity truck…
If you for some reason vandalized my house with graffiti…I would simply power wash it. I would not claim that I’ve personally been harmed, because I am not my property.
Maybe I’ll get flamed for this, but yes, target random Americans for their government’s behavior is normal and effective, depending on where you are.
The idea that protest can succeed without causing trouble for someone is naive.
Yeah, if I went to Afghanistan in 2003 i’d expect to be targeted as an American, regardless of my personal opinions.
And so if I were personally invested in visiting somewhere, but found out it’s dangerous for Americans, that would definitely impact my opinion of the current leadership and what I’m going to do about it.
People tend not to actually change unless there’s a strong motivation. Not being able to go places you want to go, own things you want to own safely, or simply exist without being hated are some of the oldest reasons why a populace might rise up against their government
I think we might be able to muster up enough nuance to determine the difference between an inanimate object and a person, right?
Aren’t you hurting the person by harming their property?
I’m asking if we can go after every American since America does shit things? So spray paint their doors and houses, throw paint on their clothes, dump garbage in front of their doors.
Obviously thats silly because we don’t know if that particular American supports the fascist right running the USA. It’s also silly saying wrecking every Tesla is right.
Lol, no. Property does not have feelings, nor is a person driving a near 6 figure vanity truck going to experience undue financial instability by having their property vandalized.
Another false equivocation… Did every American choose to be American? Or do you think being born is the same as choosing to empower a fascist?
No, it’s just a stupid comparison to begin with. Again, the important aspect you continue to ignore is that owning a particular piece of property is a choice, and the people who can afford cyber trucks aren’t going to be financially destroyed by buying a different car. Meaning they choose to perpetuate their choice.
So if I burned your house down, you wouldn’t be hurt by this action?
It’s more like if a billionaires 3rd mansion gets burned down, you’re not really that sorry for them are you? It’s a magnitude of difference as to how it effects someone, and I don’t see any lower middle class people driving cyber trucks.
So you’re just ignoring the rest of the argument…?
Again, your claim only contains an iota of weight if you grossly over generalize and disregard nuance.
A home is not the same as a luxury vehicle. My home wasn’t built by a neo Nazi, nor does it enrich a neo Nazi. My home hasn’t been turned into a dog whistle for fascist who want to enrich their favorite neo Nazi. You do not become homeless when someone vandalizes your 100k vanity truck…
If you for some reason vandalized my house with graffiti…I would simply power wash it. I would not claim that I’ve personally been harmed, because I am not my property.
Maybe I’ll get flamed for this, but yes, target random Americans for their government’s behavior is normal and effective, depending on where you are.
The idea that protest can succeed without causing trouble for someone is naive.
Yeah, if I went to Afghanistan in 2003 i’d expect to be targeted as an American, regardless of my personal opinions.
And so if I were personally invested in visiting somewhere, but found out it’s dangerous for Americans, that would definitely impact my opinion of the current leadership and what I’m going to do about it.
People tend not to actually change unless there’s a strong motivation. Not being able to go places you want to go, own things you want to own safely, or simply exist without being hated are some of the oldest reasons why a populace might rise up against their government