• dejected_warp_core@startrek.websiteEnglish
      7·
      1 year ago

      T’Lyn is basically Daria, or Vulcan Aubrey Plaza added to the ensemble, and I’m here for it. She’s such a welcome contrast to the other character personalities, but somehow still manages to be almost as chaotic.

      • interolivary@beehaw.orgEnglish
        5·
        1 year ago

        Vulcan Aubrey Plaza

        Terrific description 😀 Also, I’d commit light treason to see Plaza play a vulcan in LD

    • Stamets@startrek.websiteOPEnglish
      6·
      1 year ago

      Also one of my favorite characters. She’s hysterical and I did not expect that, or at least to that extent. I love her.

      Also moopsy.

      • Xusontha@ls.buckodr.inkEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        She is very funny and interesting because she essentially is the “Lower Decks” of Vulcans-compared to other Vulcans she IS somewhat irrational but compared to the Cerritos crew she is the most logical person in the universe

        • VindictiveJudge@startrek.websiteEnglish
          3·
          1 year ago

          I’d argue she was actually more logical and rational than her former shipmates despite being more emotional. Everything she said in her first episode was completely right, even though it often violated protocol. Logically, either the protocol should be reexamined or T’Lyn should be given more leeway during her off hours. Punishing T’Lyn rather than working out something that would be beneficial to everyone was illogical and irrational. To me, it highlighted the big flaw of Vulcan culture - that their dogmatic and unquestioning adherence to Surak’s teachings is, paradoxically, illogical. Spock eventually understood this, as his line, “Logic is the beginning of wisdom, not the end,” demonstrates. That T’Lyn quoted that line would indicate that she has been studying Spock and is likely following a philosophy similar to the one he arrived at in his old age. Logic is a tool, a means to an end, but it is not the end itself. Those who fixate on being logical as an end unto itself ultimately have no goal and are often unable to see the forest for the trees.

    • Stamets@startrek.websiteOPEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      The fact that the guy who voices Badgey is also the same guy who played Kenneth on 30 Rock just makes me so happy. It’s the same energy but turned up a couple notches and I fucking love it.

  • USSBurritoTruck@startrek.websiteMEnglish
    81·
    1 year ago

    Ransom is less bisexual and more buysexual. You know that dude is dropping the credits for the deluxe horga’hn on his shore leave trips.

  • cheery_coffee@lemmy.caEnglish
    82·
    1 year ago

    I want to watch Lower Decks but don’t want to get Paramount+ on top of all the other streaming services I don’t watch enough for their price.

    • Infynis@midwest.socialEnglish
      7·
      1 year ago

      Paramount+ is the only streaming service I actually pay for, specifically to support the creation of new Star Trek shows. It’s a terrible service, but I think it’s worth it. Especially to make sure that Lower Decks keeps running.

      • devil_d0c@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        1 year ago

        I still pay for it because they haven’t cracked down on sharing. It’s why o still have Hulu too.

        If that goes, then so does my sub.

          • devil_d0c@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            My dad and I both think apple has been best bang for the buck. I’ve let that one lapse, but I’ve enjoyed their originals.

    • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      It’s such a weird offering. Like I don’t know off the top of my head what they do and don’t own so it’s so difficult for me to figure out in advance if they’re going to have a particular show or not.

      I really hope this isn’t the start of a trend but I really suspect that it is where all of the various providers just start opening their own streaming services and start pulling things off the likes of Netflix and Prime.

    • Stamets@startrek.websiteOPEnglish
      36·
      1 year ago

      Nope, made by a great guy named Mike McMahan. He was a writer on Rick and Morty before co-creating a show with Justin Roiland. Then he got this gig. He’s a huge Star Trek fan and exceptionally funny himself. The show is really well done without compromising on typical Star Trek ideals and morals. Also includes more easter eggs than you can shake a bat’leth at. It’s an awesome ride.

      • samus12345@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        And the other show he co-created is Solar Opposites, which felt like a Rick and Morty wannabe to me at first, but has actually surpassed it in quality.

        • Stamets@startrek.websiteOPEnglish
          5·
          1 year ago

          Solar Opposites was co-created with the Rick and Morty co-creator so probably makes sense. Also, that Rick and Morty dude (Justin Roiland) left after Season 3.

          • samus12345@lemmy.worldEnglish
            5·
            1 year ago

            And nothing of value was lost. It’s pretty clear that Roiland mostly provided the nihilism and gross-out stuff rather than the sci-fi concepts.

            • Stamets@startrek.websiteOPEnglish
              3·
              1 year ago

              I like Justins delivery and he had some funny ideas but Dan Harmon is the guy on Rick and Morty who refined them more. I’m actually really excited for the new season because Dan has more control and has brought over more writers from Community. I should probably check out Solar Opposites.

    • BolexForSoup@kbin.social
      61·
      1 year ago

      Does inside job get better? I watched the pilot and it just felt so insanely forced to me. I really was struggling to actually laugh with it.

        • BolexForSoup@kbin.social
          6·
          1 year ago

          Man Disenchantment just can’t get it together. The first 3 episodes are fantastic too. They keep over-complicating and papering over things that spin out of control. I don’t know if the Groening team just can’t handle a serialized show or what it is, but the show just never comes together. They abandon every thread that’s interesting too!

          I kept watching until this latest season. I keep saying “unless this one is good I’m done,” and they just don’t quite get there. It’s a consistent C+.

          • samus12345@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            1 year ago

            This most recent season is the last, so you might as well finish it off. It doesn’t really get better from what I’ve seen, though. It’s a weird thing where I like the setting and characters well enough, but not the plot. It’d make a great video game.

        • dejected_warp_core@startrek.websiteEnglish
          5·
          1 year ago

          I wanted so much more from Disenchantment, which is ironic in retrospect. The writing just felt like Mr. Baggins’ morning toast with too little butter scraped across it. Each season could be compressed down to a movie with very punchy dialogue and good comedy beats. Instead, it’s kind of a drawn out slog where the animation is doing a lot of heavy lifting for most scenes.

        • BolexForSoup@kbin.social
          31·
          1 year ago

          I think what makes it so difficult is as soon as I saw the listing, I knew exactly what it was going to be, and I found the jokes weren’t particularly better than anything I could write. And I’m not a particularly good writer lol.

          It basically ended up being exactly what I expected it to be, an SNL sketch gone a little too long. The premise seems too much like it comprises the entire humor of the show, and I’m just not sure how they can keep that interesting.

          • HardlightCereal@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            Inside Job’s take on the moon landing is this:

            The real reason America went to the moon is that JFK had already tried every sexual experience on earth, and he wanted to see what sex on the moon was like. “We choose to go to the moon not because it is easy, but because I am hard.” Unfortunately, the Apollo astronauts formed a free love hippie sex commune on the moon, and the government had to hire Kubrick to fake the moon return.

            If you don’t think that’s funny then I don’t think Inside Job is for you. For me the thing carrying the show is how relatable and likeable Reagan is as a protagonist.

    • interolivary@beehaw.orgEnglish
      3·
      1 year ago

      Exactly that: Lower Decks! It’s absolutely brilliant. The first season was a bit rough in places but the rest have been 🤌 There was even a Lower Decks crossover episode in Strange New Worlds, it was possibly the best thing ever

    • Madison420@lemmy.worldEnglish
      13·
      1 year ago

      Lower decks and yes, off cannon semi-quasi cannon adjacent but mostly tropes and fun references.

      • Stamets@startrek.websiteOPEnglish
        13·
        1 year ago

        I mean it’s outright canon. It’s part of the canonical Prime Timeline/Universe. That was demonstrated through SNW but also because we were told that it was.

        Don’t sell the show as being something other than it is, please.

        • BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.worldEnglish
          22·
          1 year ago

          I mean I would say it’s canon-lite. A lot of the jokes or cutaways don’t really work in a realistic star trek universe but that’s fine.

          • Stamets@startrek.websiteOPEnglish
            92·
            1 year ago

            A realistic Star Trek universe

            That Star Trek universe is what caused half of it to begin with. There are an insane amount of random nonsense that happens across all other Trek, equally as crazy as in Lower Decks. It just so happens to be that how they can visually show it is more pronounced in Lower Decks than it would be in other Trek.

            There is no such thing as a realistic Star Trek universe and there never has been. Not when you have Abraham Lincoln floating in space, a giant green ghost hand in space, a ‘God’ who is imprisoned inside the center of the center of the galaxy, another ‘God’ who judges humanity, Amelia Earheart frozen in time, Earth Dinosaurs who made spacecraft to escape asteroids, having sex with a space ghost who lives in a lantern, mushrooms that permeate the universe, pretty much anything from the Mirror Universe, ‘Red Matter’ that can stop a supernova, Warp 10 Salamanders, and many many many more things.

          • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
            3·
            1 year ago

            Well considering that Strange New Worlds had a musical episode I’m going to go ahead and say that they can canonize pretty much anything they want.

  • Namstel@lemmy.oneEnglish
    21·
    1 year ago

    I watch a couple of episodes but couldn’t get into it. Does it get better along the way?

      • ignerd@startrek.websiteEnglish
        7·
        1 year ago

        Agree with all of this. But just to add I was very lukewarm about this show at first but slowly warmed up to it progressively. But the SNW crossover episode really pushed me over into full fledged LD fan territory. Even went back and rewatched a lot of episodes and found new joys in them.

        • schnapsman@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          I watched the first 10-15 episodes, but I couldn’t continue because it was just so dialog dense. There’s maybe 10 total seconds of episode without someone talking, which made it feel more like an animated table read. That dialog is witty af, but just let me think and enjoy it for a moment here and there.