• Bruncvik@lemmy.world
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    Vance is Peter Thiel’s hand puppet, just like Trump is Musk’s. Thiel and Musk first came to serious money when they merged their companies to create PayPal, and since then they’ve been cooperating on various projects. Their current project is to establish corpo-feudalism in the US, and for that they need geopolitical isolation (Thiel’s job) and the dismantling of all social safetynets (Musk’s job). That’s all the context needed to understand Vance’s behaviour.

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      So Thiel is really in control then, since Musk is actually an idiot. The idea that Thiel thought “I can’t trust this guy to do anything” when he kicked Musk out of PayPal, and now “Wait, I need someone to ruin something and run it into the ground, I’ve got just the guy” is somehow absolutely hilarious to me.

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        Yeah this has been what I’m wondering lately. Clearly Thiel can’t be super in love with Elon since they ousted him from PayPal while he was on his honeymoon… but if he’s a useful idiot that can take the attnetion and heat, when everything implodes it’ll be on Musk and then Trump, and then Vance, who has been higher profile as VP than most, can try and worm his way in there and voila, Thiel has got what he wants. Vance is pretty off putting to most people though, which seems like bad judgement on his handlers part if they want a pseudo-legit govt CEO… but then the handlers are also super off putting in real life and clearly live in a alternate reality/bubble so maybe it’s not that far fetched.

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        It would be hilarious if it weren’t for the 75m Americans being sacrificed because of these idiots. If it just affected morons who FAFO, it would be a bit more lighthearted.

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    Well, it shows Vances vast knowlege of politics, history, and reality. It fits on a very small piece of paper.

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      They are evidently trying to destroy the USA’s traditional alliances and weaken its historical allies. The most immediate benefit is to Russia, but China also benefits while North America and Europe lose out. Their motivation seems to be that turmoil offers billionaires new opportunities to make more money, and they may also hope to strengthen their dealings with Russian oligarchs.

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        War is good for business.

        And despite the next rule being “peace is good for business”, that’s not actually all that true.