I just had to turn down a prancing Wyll. I tried to let him down easy, but he wasn’t getting the hint.

Is this what it’s like to be a woman? Dudes come prancing up to you out of nowhere like it’s their best move, then get bitchy when you don’t drop your pants for a two step?

I know I risk summoning the worst of the Internet with this question. I’m still curious if anyone’s experienced similar in the game. Maybe I’m way off thinking there’s some empathy lessons in here. It’s obviously not the message of the game, but maybe one of the messages.

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    The game was much hornier at release. It’s been tamed down with the patches.

    I’ve watched dudes in real life be much more forward that than Gale.

    I had a friend tell someone “No one at this table is doing anything with your dick tonight. You are wasting your time here, move on” that was finally what got him to work on the next group. I swear she’s going to end up being punched in the face by someone.

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      You know. I wasnt as skeeved out by lazel. She says what she wanted, I said no, it was essentially over. The revenge sex after just proved the character is emotionally under developed - and given the backstory that’s 100% on brand - but it left a different impression.

      Granted, this is a video game, and not some bar where a psycho might not take a direct response like that very well.

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      That’s some real big clit energy.

      For real though, she sounds awesome. Good friend to have.

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    Gale ropes you into his weird romance if you just try to be nice. He’s the only one who actually skeeves me out.

    Wyll comes on strong, but I don’t feel like it’s weird per se, just him not getting the subtle hints.

    Astarion I love, and he reacts in such an Astarion way when you turn him down.

    If you reject Shadowheart, it’s like kicking a puppy.

    Rejecting Lae’zel is pretty easy, since she’s pretty upfront that she just wants to smash at first.

    Karlach is way too cool about being turned down for someone so hotheaded. I love her and her big, flaming, mechanical heart.

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      The half ton of rothé hits on you no matter what too. Like the second conversation with him after he becomes a permanent companion he starts dropping hints in every conversation til you call him names.

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        Man halsin was hilarious with me.

        He confessed to me in act 3, I had literally only had him in my party for his quest with Thaniel and talked to him a couple times with no flirting or romance.

        When I told him I was not interested he was crushed and said "the car you showed me was more that of a lover than that of a host.

        And I was sitting here like “buddy I barely talked to you, are you ok?”

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          I was too afraid to ask, I thought we’d gone into spoiler territory over some other shapeshifter.

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            Nah, that’s just the insult you call him when he hits on you. Something like “if I wanted to sleep with a half ton rutting animal I’d find a deep rothe”. Paraphrased of course.

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      I romanced Gale early (picked him over Astarion), and I was surprised at how quickly we were doing romance stuff. So I can totally see how if someone wasn’t interested in that it would’ve been weird.

      For me, Wyll was the one who jumped the gun out of nowhere. I’d hardly had him in my party, and suddenly we’re romantically-dancing around the camp for some reason. Dude? I hardly know you!

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    Remember the bug that made Gale instantly want to marry you because you fed him?

    Honestly I’m surprised they patched it, seems like a pretty realistic relationship dynamic to me!

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    the tadpole must be applying pressure to the horniness-switch in everyone’s head, the Camp Horny Jail -experience can’t be explained otherwise.

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    It was way too easy for companions to fall into bed with you in this game, lol. Like, if I DO choose someone, I don’t want to have to crawl over glass for my video game husbando…but this game went too far in the opposite direction. You act like a vaguely decent person, and suddenly all the panties are falling off and you’re practically having all the bisexual poly sex you could ever want. Game’s SUPER horny, and everyone’s pan by default XD .

    Astarion seduced me like someone was paying him to do it, Gale responded TOO quickly when I made a pass at him, Wyll comes out of nowhere to dance when I had hardly even had him in my party…

    That said, aside from Wyll being pouty, the way they react to being turned down is really well written. Astarion impressed the hell out of me. Halsin’s reactions/suggestions when I reveal I’m already with someone is something I found really funny. And La’zel’s reaction to not being the first to ask me (I turned Shadowheart down a moment before I spoke to her) I found hilarious too.

    And I won’t even mention the REALLY unexpected one for fear of spoilers. That one almost made me cheat on Gale, just to see what’d happen…but I like Gale, and also he kinda has a dark side, so I didn’t want to be a dick to him both because I like him and because I think he’d turn me into a very fine mist if he got truly pissed.

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      They had major bugs in the relationship system in earlier versions of BG3. Depending on which version you are on, or which version you started your current game in, you might be seeing those bugs at work.

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        Yeah, I probably did. Gonna do a second play through anyhow. We’ll see if they chill out. Maybe all the brothels will open again so they won’t try to be banging me.

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    I am trying to romance Gale. There was no harm in dancing with wyll as long as it is just a dance.

    Karlach seems like a fun romance, but I am attracted to men, so we’ll just be friends.

    I do like that Larian made an adult game for us older people. They could have just made it for a bigger customer base but I don’t think it would be as fun. I am really enjoying the romance, swearing and violence.

    Don’t let your kids play.

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      I’d you play on pc there’s mods to make all the male characters female and all the female characters male. I’m only attracted to women and molded Wyll, Gale, ans Astarion into women, and now their romance pathways are more attractive, though I’ve never had Wyll hit on me.

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    Yes, that’s how it is and sometimes it’s worse when they get aggressive or try to humiliate you. In media it’s often depicted happening to grown up women, but I’d say the worst age is between 12 and barely 20.

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    People asks you out when they find you attractive. I fail to see how this is too horny. If any, I’d say it’s prude to see that as a problem.

    It was a bit buggy at the beginning. I had Gayle and Halsin not register I rejected them. But I saw it fixed in a patch note I think.

    I felt BG3 much more natural and real than previous games of this kind. Bioware games for example are much more mechanical about it, which is much weirder than BG3 to me.

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      You probably started playing after they patched the romances. On the playthrough I started first, Gale and Asterion are super horny for my male character with absolutely no romantic interest in men. I was casually nice to them, just being friendly. Apparently I made huge romantic progress because the options were literally ‘take me to your magic world’ or ‘i hate you fuck off’. Both of them basically started going ‘I want you so bad’ every other sentence, I had to switch them out of my team. What BG3 is really lacking in this regard is the option to become good friends in non-sexual relationships, even after the patches.

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        I had gayle and halsin bugged with this. Maybe not halsin. Gayle thought we were together when it never happened. Halsin was in love but correctly rejected. I had to turn down Wyll in act 1 and he was not very happy, but that seems very normal to me.

        You know I feel like many irl relationships works more like in BG3 than any other game. People sleep together or get rejected or hide their feelings. Most people either are in a relationship or looking for one. That’s just how it is. To me this makes BG3 companions more real.

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          I get what youre saying but ‘Everyones gender preference equals my gender and everyone wants a relationship just with me’ is kind of the opposite of my rl experience. It just feels so unnatural that all female characters are hetero while all males are gay automatically. The exact opposite if your character is female. Also, why cant you reject someone by saying you arent attracted to their gender? Coz thats what I would do irl, not just say ‘leave me alone’

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            I felt that there should have been an option to set your orientation during the creation scene. It would have avoided a number of weird encounters. IRL life you’d tell them you’re straight and the advances would stop.

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            That’s the case in all bioware games, and cyberpunk 2077 was criticised for not doing it.

            But I’m worried now. Is it really the homosexual attention that’s so concerning to you? Because it is starting to look like this.

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              It is not the homosexual attention per se thats bothering me, it is the lack of non-sexual friendship. Why cant I just be friends with someone without being hit on all the time. Sure, being hit on by women bothers me less because thats my sexual preference, but its just unrealistic in both cases. Yes its nice to have the option of all kinds of sexual relationships with characters, but I dont want it forced on me. I just want the option of being friends with men and women without them constantly seducing me.

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                  Yea actually my critique was aimed at the earlier versions of the release. In my second playthrough it seems less awkward and more casual. So props to the devs for working so hard on the game after release.

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      I originally thought it’d be the mechanical BioWare do the quest and talk to them and eventually they’ll come. In the end the only one to proposition was Halsin after talking to him once.

      I’ve since learned that listening to the dialogue might be key for some characters but I didn’t think I’d accidentally romance Halsin in the process.

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        Halsin was bugged on that matter. I don’t know if it was corrected. Or if it’s only a matter of doing everything right for him and it’s quite easy to do.

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    They had major bugs in the relationship system in earlier versions of BG3. Depending on which version you are on, or which version you started your current game in, you might be seeing those bugs at work.

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      Bugs and dialogue options that sound innocent but actually initiated romance (and should now be better marked). I was very confused when Wyll and Gale were so hot to trot when I spent all my time pining after Karlach. I was just trying to be friendly, guys.

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    I honestly was getting annoyed at Will in my DUrge playthrough where I kept Laezel. He was constantly asking weirdly prying questions about her sex life.

    The dancing was fine until it wasn’t. It’s one thing to work up to it and go in for a kiss, but don’t get all pissy and run away when you get rebuffed. If you can’t handle a fairly normal rejection, maybe just go slower and talk things through more before getting physical.

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    I think it makes a bit of sense. All the characters are in a situation where they might get killed at any moment, either by the tadpole or in a fight somewhere, so maybe everyone is on edge and it’s one of a few positive things they can grab on to.

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    It’s annoying, I wish there was a setting to just turn off romance, or at least put strict limits on it. My tween wants to play the game and it’s pretty much the only reason I haven’t let him yet. And it’s unfortunate because the game is truly a masterpiece experience otherwise.

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      I strongly disagree. You should not kneecap games to have them be able to be played by more audiences.

      The lack of games for children is a separate issue, but you can probably talk to yours and make sure they understand the problematic themes. Note that this game also has other adult themes and is probably unsuitable anyway. It is somewhat disconcerting that you are only concerned about nudity/sexual themes.

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        Having a setting to turn content off isn’t “kneecapping” a game

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        Well, I agree with your statement that you shouldn’t cut content or water a game down to make it appeal to a wider audience.

        But what they were asking for was a setting to be able to turn off romance. I don’t think it’s a bad thing to turn off an aspect of a game you don’t like. It’s strictly personal preference, you won’t ruin anyone else’s enjoyment of the game because you want to play it a certain way.

        Again, I think this should be a setting not enabled by default, and you should have to turn it on first. The game should ship as whole as possible, and if you want to turn off some aspects, you should be able to. I don’t see it as any different from games having a low/high gore setting.

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          I’d be totally down for a toggle. A mod is fine too, if there’s one, gimme!

          I just find romances entirely uninteresting. I just want to be friendly and not upset companions because the whole thing wasn’t mutual. And pissing them off because I “have to” turn them down kills me a bit.

          I guess turning someone down is a bummer for them, but man would I like to sidestep the whole issue without needing to be shitty towards them to keep the romance-meter from filling up by just being friendly.

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    Yeah, the romance in this game is cringy as hell. I don’t know how many times I have to tell these horny people that no means no.

    I really wish this wasn’t a thing in games.

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      They had major bugs in the relationship system in earlier versions of BG3. Depending on which version you are on, or which version you started your current game in, you might be seeing those bugs at work.