• gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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    3 hours ago

    While i agree with you overall, i’d like to point out a few things.

    First of all, “growth” is not a purely human concept. If you believe in the theory of evolution (which I advise you to do), all life strives for (evolutionary) growth sooner or later. That is why saying “humans are exceptionally bad because they spread like crazy” is in itself a false thought - all life does that.

    The question is: Is humanity’s rule over the planet justified? In other words, do we have a large enough advantage to all life on Earth that we can reasonably occupy almost all inhabitable land area? What is the advantage that we bring to life?

    As i said earlier, all lives ultimately strives towards evolutionary growth. Humans can aid that cause by making life multiplanetary. Don’t get me wrong, i’m not at all a Musk fanboy. But i believe in this single point: Similar to how birds can carry plants seeds to far-away islands, humans can carry all life to other planets and provide it with an essential opportunity for growth. That is why i see it as “humanity has also some very big advantages to life on Earth in general” besides “humanity causes the largest mass-extinction in a long time”. Both are true.

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      2 hours ago

      Lol, never said anything to the contrary, my dear friend!

      Everything what I compared humans to has a precedence in the wild (we arent that unique), which ended in a catastrophe of sorts (and a rebound an eon later).

      Are you suggesting infestation can be a non-life phenomenon? I am def intrigued! (Even in sci-fo terms!)
      Ofc it’s part of the natural selection!

      The question is: Is humanity’s rule over the planet justified? In other words, do we have a large enough advantage to all life on Earth that we can reasonably occupy almost all inhabitable land area? What is the advantage that we bring to life?

      As said, an infestation, I never argued if justified or not (whatever even means to be “justified” to lower biodiversity like humans do).

      However we are in the midst of a mass eviction event.

      Similar to how birds can carry plants seeds to far-away islands, humans can carry all life to other planets and provide it with an essential opportunity for growth.

      Yes, exactly, and this can also be an infestation when the “invasive species” (human term) spreads and kills the existing local species bcs the ecosystem isn’t balanced. This usually negatively effects biodiversity.

      Like rats killed entire species when were introduced to New Zealand and similar secluded islands.