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Members of President Donald Trump’s National Security Council, including White House national security adviser Michael Waltz, have conducted government business over personal Gmail accounts, according to documents reviewed by The Washington Post and interviews with three U.S. officials.

  • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    BUTTERY MALES

    Even less secure than Signal. Google probably has stored copies of those emails for the 13 eyes countries, and who know what else had access to them.

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    This is what happens when both parties excuse anything their “team” does…

    Too many Americans were fine with Hillary and mad about this, or mad about Hillary and fine with this.

    Meanwhile saying something as basic as:

    Everyone needs to be held to the same standard

    And both sides pile on accusing you of “whataboutism” for saying standards should apply evenly. It makes zero sense, but happens fucking constantly

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      Of course you’re “both sides” on this. You do understand that the Secret Service oversaw the server, and that Trump’s DoJ investigated it?

      Do you also know that the NSA explicitly advised against the use of Signal for any governmental purpose, citing recent exploits by Russian hackers? Hell, Gmail even states that it reads your emails during signup. Still, Republicans are refusing an investigation.

      This is not a both sides argument anymore. Get off the soapbox. Ya done.

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        Hillary was wrong in the same way W was wrong and several before her.

        It was shitty and borderline illegal, but not much more than smoking weed in the wrong state is illegal. Everyone else is doing it and the law is rarely enforced.

        Hillary fully deserved a slap on the wrist. And it would be good if it stops. But it was also unusual to pick that time to enforce it.

        And what these guys are currently doing is wildly more reckless and irresponsible. At minimum it disqualifies them from the job. Prison time should be a possibility.

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          Not really. When you frame it in a way where you don’t sound like a right wing nutter, I find people tend to accept it.

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      Yes and a parking infraction is the same as a hit and run because they both happened on the road with cars. What a nonsense bunch of words you put up there as wisdom lmao.

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        What is hard about understanding this?

        Since you like cars think of it like this:

        If cops fail to enforce minor traffic tickets, do you not understand how people will stop following those minor rules, creating a culture where everyone disregards all driving laws causing serious consequences?

        Like, this shit is as simple as cause and effect as dropping a glass of water and the water not staying in the glass …

        But you and lots of others just can’t understand.

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            What?

            Do you not live in a medium to major size city so that analogy was lost on you?

            Hillary was like turning right on red even tho there was a sign that she shouldn’t.

            She may have looked and saw it was safe, but because those low level offences go unpunished, stupid people start thinking traffic laws don’t matter.

            So they do even dumber shit, without seeing if it was safe. In this analogy it’s blasting straight thru red lights.

            Does none of that make any sense to you?

            I overestimate people a lot, but I legitimately don’t understand what’s so hard about this

            Out of curiosity did you start an American public education after No Child Left Behind removed all critical thinking from the curriculum?

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        she was investigated heavily. did you forget?

        She was investigated…

        It was found she broke the law…

        And she faced zero consequences…

        I’d try and help you understand more, but not when you’re that insulting

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          My understanding is that this type of infraction would have normally merited an administrative response, but no criminal charges. Since she wasn’t employed by the government anymore at that time, there wasn’t really much that was warranted.

          I mean, I’d be fine if they wanted to throw the book at her. I support this with any powerful members of society. But I don’t think this case was particularly unusual.

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      I’ve seen a few people on Lemmy get this right, but no, this is not the same thing. Hilary was running her own email server, which allowed her to erase communications with no oversight. The Trump admin did something similar with Signal, but using Gmail is not the same problem

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        I’ve seen a few people on Lemmy get this right, but no, this is not the same thing

        Who said it was the same amount of bad?

        I said they both broke the law and should have been held to the same standard: the law.

        This isn’t complicated, although I have started to notice the ones not understanding this all have accounts on lemmy.ml

        So I’m going to be an optimistic and assume you all could understand this, you’re just intentionally not