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Work on/build racecars. Some of it’s very technical, but probably not the type you’re asking about. Also a woman. I’m checking off all the abnormal demographics here. Right?
We should normalize what you do. Woman can build racecars or do any other work a man can. Great work, keep it up!
@techconsulnerd I agree!!! It’s been a very, very slow process, but I have been seeing more women in motorsports, which is awesome. Even F1 has a new series F1 Academy, which is an all women series. I’m way too old, but if I was younger, I’d sure be trying to get in.
Male prostitute
/s
(Seriously, agree with you in general though)
I mean, shouldn’t is more applicable for “male prostitute.” Really depends on the gig, and how closely the client examines your assets.
I guess it depends what the client things the right tool for the job is. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail
And when all you have is a Phillips head screw, you might overlook who’s holding the handle of the exact size screwdriver you need.
As long as high physical strength is not required, I strongly agree. These days the need for that is becoming less and less unless you want to be a marine.
You’re conflating physical strength with gender, but when it comes to who can do the work, only one of those is relevant.
I think we’re on the same page, I’m just pointing out that the statement “women can do any work a man can, as long as high physical strength is not required” is just as inaccurate as saying “all men can do work that requires high physical strength”. As a man, I’ll be the first to say there are a huge number of women who are more physically capable than me. Turns out, a task that requires high physical strength doesn’t need a man, it needs a person with high physical strength.
I don’t think you were replying to me, but objectively the average man, of similar size, is going to be stronger than me, in the brute force, or explosive force aspect. It’s just an unfortunate fact of human genetics. Men typically have denser bones, ligaments, and tendons, muscle fiber, more muscle mass, and testosterone to help build and maintain all of it. Women are said to be something like 60% as strong as a man on average. HOWEVER, women typically have better stamina, longevity, are better at enduring trauma, etc.
I am by no means frail or weak, and am probably stronger than a lot, but I will never be as strong, or as lean as a man with equal work put toward it.
There is no disagreement that, in the current day and age of the human species, men are biologically predisposed to be more physically capable on average. There is no contention about that.
The point I am making is that two bodies with similar bone density, muscle mass, testosterone, etc. are going to be physically capable of the same thing, regardless of their genders. The gender is a red herring, what matters is the capability of doing the work.
As I told the other commenter,
Lol. Are we? Maybe it’s just my small world but I don’t see that at all. I encounter sexism CONSTANTLY. Hell, scroll down to the bottom of the comments on my main reply, it’s right there for everyone to see.
But gender does matter because one gender is predisposed to be bigger, stronger, have more testosterone, and has the ability to be stronger/build muscle more easily. I’d love to agree with you, that in a perfect world, gender didn’t matter in brute strength, but it does. All things are not equal out of the box.
Now, as I have clearly proven, brute strength isn’t everything, in fact most of the time it only means so much, but it’s still there regardless. I think a more accurate statement would be something like “strength only gets you so far, capability is more important”
Lol I meant it more in a “you’re smart enough to stop leaving the milk out of the fridge, child!” kind of way. I agree sexism is still rampant, and I guess I’m implicitly saying people in the past are somehow excused because they weren’t as intelligent, but what I’m intending to saying is that we’re smart enough now, so we have no excuse.
I see this as a heuristic at best, and an excuse for sexism at worst. In my example above I’m specifically referring to two people who are equally physically capable of doing a task by definition. The man shouldn’t be given preference simply because he’s a man, and men happen to be stronger on average. That’s not relevant when picking someone who can do the job.
Sure but you are probably aware that all boys being born have higher strength than females, just because of biology. Then of course in life as we grow, some men don’t maintain that strength and lose it. But I think it’s still accurate to think that men in general are stronger than women, even if there are exceptions.
Otherwise we are just ignoring a fact of how our bodies are different.
But due to how natural selection works, that’s a self-fulfilling argument. Men are biologically stronger specifically because people have made the argument you’re making for hundreds of thousands of years, thereby selecting for the pattern you’re claiming exists.
When you’re looking for someone to do a task, you aren’t looking for a biological explanation, you aren’t looking for a man, you’re looking for someone who can do the task.
I don’t think people have selected for that. It was necessary in the past to be strong to survive and provide for your family. So those genes were selected because those people could survive long enough to have kids. If you were too weak, you didn’t make it.
I’m not saying it was deliberate (i.e. artificial) selection, the selection was natural. I’m just saying, think on it more.
But you’re saying those genes weren’t required by females for some reason? Why? Honestly the only answer is: because it just happened to work out that way. The evolutionary coin could have just as easily flipped the other way and resulted in women being biologically predisposed to be stronger. We see this in many animal species, in fact.
We have a history of giving jobs to men because we’ve conflated their gender with other capabilities, not because they actually are the most capable. But my point is, we’re smart enough as a species to not do that anymore.
Of course, coin could have flipped the other way. Its not like men did anything to get higher strength. Just like woman didn’t do anything to be able to have children.
I think we should celebrate that we are different. Sometimes it feels like people thinks higher strength means “better gender”. It doesn’t mean that at all. :)
I love that woman are different from me. I love everything about it. And my partner loves that im a man. I think we should just celebrate that we have two genders that are different in many nice ways.
As for job history, tall men are paid more than women, and found by girls to be more attractive, at least where I live. I think it’s similar to young girls being preferred by almost any man. We have our biological patterns inside and we are not going to get away from them very easily.
The brain is like “this is not right” but our emotions are like “yeah but it’s fun”. Humans are quite interesting in that way, because we are both emotional and intellectual.
Gee, Mr. Manager, that’s odd, I lift and carry my husband in and out of his wheelchair everyday because he’s a quad and was a floppy baby who’s never walked, but apparently “all boys being born have higher strength than females just because of biology.”
You’re sure it’s ALL boys? You’re absolutely sure that strength between two individuals is dependent upon their sex? We’re the same age and height. I weigh more because he has no muscles and I do. And yet, SOMEHOW, I’m a woman.
Gee, ladies , why are we NOT surprised at that “boys”/“females” word choice in Mr. Manager’s assertion?
I guess it didn’t take long for the incels to follow the crowd over from Reddit.
I’m sure there are exceptions like in your case. But in general yes, boys are born physically stronger. Your insults won’t change those facts. But you know, you can have your own beliefs. That’s the great thing about life. If you want to believe that females are physically stronger, or that there is no difference between men and females physical strength, you can do that.
You are acting quite immature with your insults here. If you can’t even talk about these things without getting upset, maybe you are not completely objective here. Give it some thought.
Oh you’re also one of the ones who likes to pretend he’s being strictly logical and doesn’t realize how his prejudices and emotional insecurities show through in his posts. I’m sorry you’re threatened by the fact that your masculinity doesn’t guarantee you greater strength than most women. If you want to be physically strong you’re going to have to get off the couch and exercise those muscles and ligaments. And if you want your opinions to be respected, you need to exercise respect for facts, even when it’s women telling them to you. You speak like someone whose notions of “biology” haven’t changed since they were 5 years old. There’s a whole lot of “Mom said I can’t hit girls but I really wish I could” leaking out all over the place in your comments. I’m sorry you’re so emotionally stunted and I sincerely wish growth for you.
I’m sorry but you are not acting emotionally stable here. There are many things you are saying that obviously have been painful experiences in your life, but they have made you wrongfully interpret things people are saying. You have no idea who I am but your comments show you are visualizing someone who have hurt you before I guess.
Anyway let’s move on in other posts. Have a good day.
Eh, it’s still required to work on cars/engines. Thankfully we work on smaller vehicles (Mazda/Nissan mostly) and not some big ass diesel stuff.
I can “engineer” my way out of most situations, and have been very successful accomplishing things that many men can’t, because they can’t “think outside the box”. What I mean by that is that I have to approach things differently. I have to understand things more completely sometimes, so I can work my way around the lack of brute force, where many men can just push/lift/torque something without thought, and they get complacent. That allows me to see different solutions to things that may stump others.
That said, I have found instances where I am just not physically big, or strong enough to do something, and need help.
I also have the benefit of being much smaller, so I can get into places a lot of men can’t. It has its benefits and drawbacks.
I believe you, and I have many examples from my own life where girls are outsmarting guys because they are forced to use their brains. Guys sometimes doesn’t because we can just use strength instead, like you said.
And being smaller and more agile is a huge plus in most situations as well.
Pretty much agree 100%.
Man I’m so glad that zoomers understand the difference between sex and gender, and are doing away with this, “boys do this, and girls do that!” bullshit.
Like, oh yeah, do you know a lot of girls who are, in your mind, uncharacteristically smart? That right? That’s not condescending in any way.
I don’t know anyone who would say “uncharacteristically smart” like that. Sounds very offensive.
I agree. Maybe you shouldn’t imply it then.
I didn’t. Maybe you shouldn’t read things that aren’t there.
I think it’s just more accurate to say that “there are things that only certain people with high physical strength can do.” There’s no reason to gender it.
I disagree actually, but no offense to you personally. I think it’s better to be specific and clear and say what we mean. It becomes ridiculous to say “some people” when we mean men most of the time.
Imagine trying to explain to a kid… He asks “are men stronger than females”. You are supposed to say “no, some people are stronger than others” and leave it at that? The poor kid is growing up to be an idiot then, not knowing basic biology. Maybe I’m not understanding you correctly.
Fyi, just because you took a biology course 15 years ago, doesn’t mean you have a firm grasp on the modern understanding of the subject. Sex and gender are two different things.
We can agree on that too. Nice.
Yeah the only other abnormal demographic I can think of is being totally normal and well functioning mentally.
But I mean c’mon, this is an internet forum, we are all nuts here haha
Haha, yeah I’m DEFINITLY not “normal” or “well functioning mentally”.
Ohhh what kind of racecar? I’m actually going after work to the shop to go scale our car. Cross is a bit off keeps getting a little loose at the corner exit.
Also a woman btw
Edit, just saw your other comment were racing very different cars but that’s awesome!
You’re my hero. I always wanted to work on cars. I ended up in IT. I miss repairing shit back in my tech bench days. Using my hands to repair, build, make better. What kind of racecars?
We have built engines/cars for Land Speed Racing, Drifting (Forumla D, and lower classes), Rolex GrandAM, 24 hours of lemons (or similar series), more weekend warrior type stuff like AutoX or off-road toys, and engines/wiring for trucks that run in series like King of Hammers or Baja 500
Can I be you when I grow up? (Am already in my 40s but that’s okay right?)
I mean, if you want to…
That’s an amazing story! I’ve never been out west, but Bonneville would be awesome. Over 400 on salt sounds absolutely nuts.
Did you ever determine what was causing the spins? Aero or mechanical?
Def need an AMA. Or whatever we call it here. What kind of racing?
Can definitely do an AMA, but not sure how interesting it would be.
We have built multiple kinds. We have build engines/cars for Rolex GrandAm, Drifting (Formula D), Land Speed Racing (we actually hold a bunch of records in our class), King of Hammers/Baja type off-road (engines/wiring only, not chassis), and then the more casual type stuff for the weekend warrior types (autoX, desert toys, etc).
I’m super jealous. I live for motorsport so yeah, I’d be down to hear any cool stories! (No obligation, just curious)
It’s not as glamourous as it seems lol. It’s so much awful shit sometimes, but it’s fun sometimes too.
I’ll preface this story with here are some articles about a car we built (engine/wiring mostly), and took to Bonneville Salt Flats. (I’m not sure if links are allowed, so if not, LMK) If you want to read about it, there are about 15-20 pretty technical articles on Moto-IQ about the build (I’m co-owner of 5523 Motorsports, so articles with us apply). You can see them here (they don’t seem to be in any particular order, and there’s other unrelated shit, but they were publish chronologically originally and I suggest reading them chronologically). If the link doesn’t get them to load, search project LSR on Moto-IQ site.
So, we were out at Bonneville, running the LSR 240SX which had our destroked SR20 in it. We get up to the line, start our pass, take off, and the car spins at right about 200mph (we never officially clocked 200 (lame), but datalogging shows we exceeded it). Next pass, same thing (I think it was a total of three times it spun that weekend). One of, if not the last pass we did of the weekend, we were in line in front of (maybe we were right behind, it’s been a while) Danny Thompson (Mickey Thompson’s son), who was running his dads Challenger II car (google the history, it’s long, sad, and sorted). Our team was mostly at the start line, but I was at about mile 5.
Whichever order the cars went out in, I saw both from mile 5. Challenger II takes off, and I can’t see it (curvature of the earth, I couldn’t see it until it reach somewhere around mile 2) but the announcers are broadcasting on an AM channel so I can hear whatever they are calling out. I hear mile 1 xxx MPH, mile 2 xxx MPH, mile 3 xxx mph. I witnessed this car go 450.9 MPH on salt. I know that kinda sounds dumb, but you’re brain really can’t comprehend how fucking fast that is until you see it in person. I’ve been around cars, and fast car my whole life, but this was something else. Danny beat his dad’s old record, which was the point, but my god that car was impressive.
So we go back out for our next pass, and what do we do, again? Spin, of course. There is the in car video of it in this article on page 3. The funny part, is that I have series of pics (which I’d have to go searching for now), where you can see the spring come off the chute, then the knob (the cable for the chute itself wrapped itself around the knob and launched it when it deployed), then the chute starts to deploy, and the last pic of the series was the nose of the car facing the fully deployed chute. We did set the record though. yay!
IDK how interesting that story is, but it was a fun weekend of racing. If you ever get the chance, going to the races out there is really fun. It still feels like back in the day, where everyone helps each other, and seemingly wants to collaborate, in some capacity. The crew next to us in the pits had a ranchero that they had put a Nissan engine in. It was an older Nissan engine (I don’t remember it even having a true ECU in it) and they were struggling with the “tech” that was in it. IIRC it was just one of those MSD electronic ignition boxes (like the 6AL). We helped them as much as we could, and they lent us some tools. Hell, tech inspection, after we spun was some dude rubbing his hands around the circumference of the tires, to check for anything abnormal, and then the thumbs up to go again.
I will say the most flattering part of the whole weekend was these HUGE teams that were running these crazy cars really took notice of what we were doing with our little team/car. I didn’t even have to be near the car, or mention it, and people would ask me about it. It’s really something different from most other forms of racing anymore.
That’s freakin’ awesome.
I’m sure you have a bajillion replies, but I would love to see some of the race cars y’all build.
I already linked the land speed car we built in another reply (should be easy to find under my original reply). If not lmk.
I was looking for a link to another car and stumbled on something one of our customers did.
YouTube video on the “Hakobird” build
So funny story, I guess. Not so funny for the poor person, ME, who covered themself in fiberglass for weeks for it to be completely ruined by someone else. The part where he shows the wide body kit installed and perfectly aligned and pretty? Yeah. It left our possession to go to paint like that. I spent weeks making it perfect, and I had to re-engineer A LOT of the kit because their mold was off by about 20-30* to the right, so nothing fit. At all. Then the painter ruined it.
The car has a built SR20DET in it. It did 350whp first day we had it on the dyno, with plenty more room.
That is just SO doap.
The 510 is one of my all time favorite cars ever.
And the 510 with that front end and that bad ass wide body kit? Absolute perfection.
SR20DET is just the icing on the cake. Usually you see those KA’s in the 510s, which are great engines and perfect upgrade for auto crossing and stuff. That SR20DET just turns it into another beast.
Friggin’ blows having the painter ruin all your hard work. You can tell from those shots a lot of care went into it.
Badass build. Y’all should be proud.
Thanks!!!
Funny enough. We just built two SR20VET engines. And even funnier, they were both going into roadsters. Neither guy knows each other, we didn’t suggest the combo. Just a coincidence.
We’ve done a few 510s with SR20DE/DET engines now. We actually do a lot of SR engines, both VE/VET and DE/DET.
We’ve done L series too, but I can’t think of a KA we’ve done that ended up in a 510. Usually they stay in an S chassis.
We also built an SR20 that ended up in a 300XZ. Yeah…… I still question the thought process behind that one.
Unrelated, we also built a VQ35 for Dai Yoshihara in 3 days. Moto-IQ did an article about that one too.
@potato