A good example is https://lemmy.world/c/documentaries
One of their mods, https://lemmy.world/u/sabbah, currently mods 54 communites despite only being on Lemmy for about a month and has never posted on c/documentaries (except for his post asking for people to join his mod team).
The other mod, https://lemmy.world/u/AradFort, has one post to c/documentaries and moderates 18 communities.
Does Lemmy.World have a plan to remove this kind of cancer before we start getting reddit supermods here too?
Edit: This comment shows how this is even more dangerous than I had thought.
Edit2: Official answer from LW admin is here
Final: Was going to create an issue for this on the Lemmy github, but I browsed for awhile and found that it had already been done. If anyone wants to continue the discussion there, here it is - https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3452
Perhap we need another issue for the problem in the original edit (It being impossible currently to remove a ‘founding’ mod without destroying either the community of their account)
I knew this would happen and that’s why I am FOR hardcoded community limits per user unless an admin, in individual cases, allows the user to open additional communities based on past handling of other communities the user has been (or was supposed to be) modding.
Letting a user create 54 communities, especially those that were some of the biggest communities on Reddit is dangerous. Powermodding is a serious problem on online platforms and letting individual users create unlimited communities leads to it. Imagine how much money this person might want to sell their Account(s) for when the platform grows further and interest might accrue?
It is humanely impossible to mod more than a handful of communities alone anyways. The users you mentioned are powermods.
As another good example against freedom of creating unlimited communities is user LMAO whom most of you will probably at least have heard of by now, or even found when searching for a community that has numbers in its name.
I will stand by this position.
I mod a bunch. Only because I joined when Lemmy got it’s big first wave, and the site was literally dead. My contribution was making communities for people to start posting in, because a ton of people simply don’t want to moderate, or don’t know how to create communities.
Within the first week I got a bunch of DMs from people asking to be mods, and I added all of them. I am not making communities to horde them. I am making them so people have places to post. To get the ball rolling.
What happened when you posted about this in !support@lemmy.world? If no traction there, you can always email info@lemmy.world
They would likely need to be deleted, unless things have changed since this comment was made.
They would likely need to be deleted, unless things have changed since this comment was made.
Oof, that’s rough. I hadn’t realized that.
Tagging you in this thread too. Sorry if this isn’t the most effective/preferred method
If you’re interested in one of those communities and the mod is still active - pick it up with them first. In cases where the mods have abandoned the community completely we as admins can transfer the community to a new mod/team.
How many communities is it reasonable for 1 person to moderate? I don’t like the idea of someone having control of 50+ communities. That type of unjustified control was abused on reddit. The reason why someone wants to control that many communities is to inflict their bias.
That question keeps coming up as if users can not create multiple accounts to circumvent that. As I said as long as they manage to get teams together and actively moderate those communities following the community guidelines and server rules there’s not much that can be done. And this is NOT reddit 2.0 - there are other instances were the exact same communities can be created and grow.
That question keeps coming up as if users can not create multiple accounts to circumvent that.
If we are taking that approach, does that not make the rest of the rules unenforceable as well?
How would you even know that it is the same person if they use two separate accounts?
Say someone does something against the rules, gets banned. Creates another account and does the same thing. We will ban them again if they violate the server rules but how would we know that it was the same person?
Unless it’s an obvious troll posting the same stuff over and over on different accounts.
I’m sorry but your logic makes no sense.
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Maybe they just wanted to create the spaces and hoped to pass it on to someone who was interested but for now have the space where people could find, hopefully
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Most of those subreddits follow the same theme/niche. Seems to be a pro-Palestinian user who probably tried to jump start Lemmy.world
Right. Someone will just go and make the same community on a difference instance.
Fix this problem now before all the Reddit refugees decide that the new boss isn’t any better than the old boss.
People trying to be power mods on Lemmy. We saw how well that worked on other sites…
Get with the community admin and discuss if you are interested in it.
In most cases they are not going to respond either because they are inactive or they are intentionally squatting the names for whatever reason. They can’t respond or they don’t want to.
In this specific case the call for mod is public, open and with 0 comments of anyone asking to help: https://lemmy.world/post/1036821
The call to join ‘their’ team. Also, why did they create a community they had no interest in modding / participating in to begin with?
Well, at this very moment, it’s their team. They put an icon, a sidebar, a few users are posting.
I don’t see what’s your issue here. Why not join them if you want to mod that community? I’m sure they would be happy to have you onboard
I feel like you, and several others, are entirely missing the point.
Its not that I want the community so much as I am concerned about the squatting aspect at large.
Well, if they are squatting and not doing their jobs as mods, then people will ask the LW admins to remove them, and that’s it.
I’ve been trying to get an active mod to take over on the lemmy.world battlestations community, but despite my efforts posting in the lemmy.world support community which the admins have suggested doing for this exact issue there has been no change. https://lemmy.world/u/mandlar
In general I find it pointless for there to exist a million empty communities even when the creators have good intentions. Most of them are sub communities of a broader category which only serves to unnecessarily split a community while there is barely traffic in the broader topic. You shouldn’t make a more specific topiced community unless the subject you want to discuss is getting burried in overwhelming traffic of the broader community.
One of the worst things about Reddit was that you could make a subreddit for anything but peeling away any amount of users from the “main” sub was next to impossible and forget about new user traffic without having the “default” name. Therefore the mods of that sub become the defacto admins of that topic on reddit until they piss off enough people to really get an alternative moving. Many different subreddits were actively fucked up by bad moderation but users kept dog piling in because it had the basic name you would think to search for, i.e. “television” or “videos” or “movies” or what have you. That name is real estate on reddit because no one else can have it, and that keeps horrible mods entrenched.
I think we should encourage several hubs and stop worrying about “splitting” communities. We have the benefit here of letting different communities grow under the same name to avoid that situation where a shitty mod team gets unchallenged ownership. No one else could make a /r/sandiego, so they never shook that real estate free from its horrible mod. Here? That’s not an issue.
For example, one of Lemmy.world’s biggest communities was locked by the head mod and forced to a different instance to join with another community. Without input from the lemmy.world users. It’s still sitting there in the communities list, locked, but high up on subscribers. Meanwhile the instance it was moved to is moderated much more strictly. Admins over there heavily “curate”; remove any post they don’t think are worthy enough to be posted.
I think that community should be unlocked and a new moderator should be allowed to take over, so there’s a different version of that community on a different instance, then people can have a choice between what type of moderation they want to exist under.
Edit: !android@lemmy.world
Edit2: Reworded this mess for clarity
Mandler has not been active in a month. If you want any of the communities make a post there, tag me and I will add you as a moderator.
Dude was on Lemmy for 1 day and snagged 8 different pokemon subs…
He was really trying to catch them all
Hey, I guess the admins removed u/sabbah from top mod of c/worldnews because they permabanned people for disagreeing with their personal opinions…
Figured you might want to know the new mods added them back already because they think sabbah is good at “conflict resolution”
Lol is he legit running an alt with chatGPT?
Christ.
The solution to this is going to an Instance that works the way you prefer. Not creating extra rules for this one.
People will sort themselves into the kinds of places they prefer, as time goes on.
Good admins and moderation are the cornerstones of any community. Always have been, always will be.
