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Cake day: June 30th, 2023

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  • Wut?

    You keep repeating that the “scale of ethics” is incomparable but flip flop between “theyre not omnicient or omnipotent”… “but maybe they are”

    And what does “balance” have to do with ethical behaviour without you begging the question.

    “If we assume the existence of god, we have to assume a lot of other things too” and…???

    Ultimately you spent a lot of time stating the cop-out argument of “its beyond us mere mortals”. To which I can fairly respond… no.













  • Just because people can consume pure lard, and gain a tonne of weight, it doesnt mean theyre not malnutritioned. It also doesnt mean they dont experience hunger.

    If you take a step back and consider the primary question that needs to be answered is it

    a) What weight is a measure of hunger/poverty - people must be over x weight irrespective if health and were good. b) What food availability us a measure of hunger/poverty - people must have reasonable acess to a basic set of nutritional inputs and were good.

    You seem to be following a - people are fat, so hunger doesnt exist

    When it would be equally truthful, with a different conclusion to say - people are feeling hunger and experiencing malnutrition. When they can eat, what they can afford causes increased body mass without fulfilling their nutritional requirements. They also continue to feel hungry.

    Treat food similar to medicine, the good benefit is the target, but there are also side effects. Cheaper food has a worse profile - fewer (not none) benefits, and higher side-effects.

    Theres also more complexity to this - poverty isnt just $. Education, transportation, time, exhaustion, health. Many intersections and impacts that paint a persons life.


  • If only there was some way to confirm, short of only reading the headline, if theres more to this.

    Oh, apparently theres further text in the article, for example 29% said their financial situation is precarious. 11% say they regularly dont eat enough, so they have enough food for their kids, 24% say theyre very concerned with coping with the increase in food prices. Oh and 12%, within the past 6 months, have skipped meals while hungry.

    So the article sources survey data, you’re basing your claims on better primary data I take it? Or maybe secondary public health database datasets? Something else?



  • Maybe youre not aware of what that means. Orphan crushing machine is relative to a situation and what at first what sounds like a heartwarming action, until you question why that action was needed in the first place.

    No focus on the good samaritan(s) here, rather it is sad that in this world you need a saviour to keep a foodbank afloat, and deeper, sadder still that foodbanks are needed in the first place.

    The orphan crushing machine - the heartless system. The criticism is on society having holes for people to fall through.

    The classic orphan crushing machine story is about that 6 year old that worked through summer to pay off his classmates lunch debt. The good samaritan, loved young boy. The orphan crushing machine, the school system that would cut off lunches for low income students that couldnt pay off their debt.