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  • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.comtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.worldOnly The Best People
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    6 hours ago

    Ok, here we go:

    I’m disgusted by people who threw their vote away

    Throwing their vote away = not voting.

    or refused to vote blue over genocide

    Refusing to vote blue != not voting

    Refusing to vote blue = vote red, green, PSL, RFK, literally anything else

    Are we arriving at the issue at hand finally?

    Your reading comprehension needs work.

    Annnd classic troll move by resorting to insults instead of facts and claims at hand. How big of a waste of time you’ve been

    Edit:

    Unless you mean that both people that didn’t vote nor voted blue are disgusting to you, in which case whatever. Personal sentiments can’t fix hard facts. The more liberals like you cope, the more you’ll lose elections.


  • You just said:

    I said that I’m disgusted by people who sat out.

    Your original post which I commented on said this:

    Yes, and I’m disgusted by people who threw their vote away or refused to vote blue over genocide

    Which is it?

    The Uncommitted Movement was ~700k strong. Even if we assume the entire voting block didn’t cast ballots in 2024, meaning I don’t count them in the Green Party/PSL group, the impact of that would still only be less than 1 mn, which RFK and Libertarians similarly drew for their causes. It’s a rounding error whether or not they contributed to the outcome or not.

    The real problem is why more people either 1) changed parties or 2) didn’t vote in 2024 when they did in 2020. Perhaps COVID had an effect in 2020, perhaps tightened voting laws had an effect in 2024, perhaps Democrats have now become Republican-lite, perhaps shit just sucks and there’s no time when people need to work.

    It is a politician’s job to think about these things and determine a strategy best suited to acquiring power. If politicians don’t do that, they lose races.


  • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.comtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.worldOnly The Best People
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    15 hours ago

    or refused to vote blue over genocide

    In 2024, 155mn people voted, while 88mn didn’t out of the entire 243 mn eligible voting population.

    Of that, 77 mn voted R, 75 mn voted D, and 3 mn voted 3rd party.

    In 2020, 158 mn people voted, while 79 mn didn’t out of the entire 238 mn eligible voting population.

    Of that, 81 mn voted D, 74 mn voted R, and 3 mn voted 3rd party.

    Your claim is that the Uncommitted Movement had an impact in 2024 on the outcome of the election.

    Wikipedia says that the movement got 700k votes. If we look to Ballotpedia, the Green Party received ~860k while the PSL received ~165k, meaning we can pretty much say those two parties captured the Uncommitted Movement’s voting block. That’s a total ~1 mn voters.

    But JFK received ~760k votes in 2024 because he didn’t file to leave the election before endorsing Trump. And the Libertarians which I doubt have any affiliation with the Uncommitted Movement received ~650k. That’s a total ~1.4 mn voters.

    The 3rd party vote didn’t make or break this election. You can see that in how many people voted 3rd party in 2024 compared to 2020 despite the voting population increasing.

    No, I reject your claim. The Democrats lost 6 mn voters in 2024, and failed to capture the eligible voting population. This wasn’t the fault of people who give a shit about genocide.

    Keep telling yourself that though while the Do Nothing Democrats roll over at every chance they get to aid and abet our fascist regime.



  • most of whom were arrested en masse without any process resembling justice—just tattoos, zip codes, or looking nervous.

    That’s the price they pay for letting their culture get that bad.

    Why are you talking about tattoos here?

    The person you’re responding to highlighted some text from the article, pointing to injustice of the regime by believing tattoos automatically = jail.

    You said their “bad culture” is the price they pay, implicitly grouping tattoo, zip codes, and looking nervous defined by the previous comment all under “bad culture” of those who do go to jail.

    You then gaslight me for pointing out your fascism and disregard for civil liberties by avoiding any correlation with tattoos because you didn’t mention them explicitly.

    Every knows what you were talking about bro. The fact you asked this question makes me think you’re a troll with no convictions for attacking modern fascism. Thanks for giving that away so all of us can treat you as such.








  • If it’s a straight line from Nixon to Trump as you say, then why claim Republicans are environmentalists with Nixon as your example?

    He said straight line THROUGH Nixon and Trump, not straight line TO Nixon and Trump.

    The former implies distinct and self-evident political differences, whereas the latter implies political evolution from one into the other where both politicians have a common set of political similarities.

    I can’t help but think at this point that we’re reaching comprehension issues…


  • You say “it’s too long ago when Republicans were different” isn’t a valid argument.

    He didn’t say that. You did.

    He pointed out your hypocrisy when you said that stating the fact that Nixon created the EPA must mean he’s a Republican (and a MAGAt one at that), but then turned heel and said that any politicians from 50 years ago don’t matter (likely because the political landscape then is not the same as the political landscape now, which is reasonably true - he makes this same point by saying 1860 Republicans are not the same as 1960 Republicans or 2025 Republicans).

    You stated he’s a Republican, then dissolved your own claim by saying support for past Republicans doesn’t matter. You’ve closed your own logic loop.



  • Democrats lost 6 millions voters in 2024 compared to 2020.

    Republicans gained 3 million voters in 2024 compared to 2020.

    Third parties stayed the same between 2024 and 2020 at 3 million total voters.

    9 million people chose to abstain from voting in 2024 compared to 2020.

    Even if you add up the some ~1 million uncommitted voters that voted Green or PSL in 2024, this pails in comparison to the amount of people that either switched parties or didn’t vote at all.

    Democrats did this to themselves. Kamala ran towards the Republicans instead of rallying to the Democrats’ traditional strengths as well as making a coalition with progressives and leftists.

    The more you blame Palestinian voters instead of Democratic party leadership, the more you wish for the destruction of all minority rights in this country.