Petrol vehicles arent outdated, LOL. They are very necessary for a multitude of reasons. Recently, even the CEO of Ford struggled mightily on a recent trip with an EV pickup. EVs are fine for quick errands, for driving to work/school, etc. They suck as recreational vehicles, sports cars, larger volume transport and various other things. Evs can co-exist with ICE vehicles. Thats the best were gonna do. Oh and BTW - we can NOT supply the electricity needed to charge a full fleet of EVs anyways. Just forget it.

Gas stoves are still preferred by many people and thats their right. They are not outdated either. While I own an electric stove, I dont have any problem with people choosing gas. What happens when the power goes out and we all have electric furnaces & stoves? Oops. That sucks.

Action with a lot of caveats is the best call for the average citizen. Christie has it right. The caveats must protect the American taxpayer, all levels of the middle and working classes lifestyles, maintain our current energy needs, allow us to continue to enjoy our lives and of course not raise energy costs. If they can get all that done and it’s transparent then great. Go for it. But, people that worked hard to own a moderately nice home with some property are not giving it up due to some green sales pitch. We don’t want to be forced to drive junk EVs. We don’t want to shut the AC off in the middle of summer. We like our gas stoves. Stuff like that. Hands off.

I won’t disagree with all of this. It just doesn’t seem fair to the guy or gal that truly earned their $23 an hour versus someone that just walks in the door and gets it. And, I can’t buy that people don’t have the time or money to better themselves. It’s a choice what you do with your time. Classes can be taken at night or part time. Trade schools and community colleges are NOT expensive and many trade schools are hurting for people and will train you for free, basically.

Yeah, my Beemer and big house was an exaggeration but the idea remains intact. Entry level, menial labor jobs were never designed to sustain families. They are first jobs that many of us had. The idea that they should overpay just doesn’t work for me.

Maybe. Im also for higher wages. But NOT when its forced or the wages dont reflect the skill level of the work. The idea is that you should improve your skill set so you’ll be more valuable to the job market. Continuing education, college, trade schools, whatever. Thats how we all did it. But, newer generations seem to think that Starbucks or McDonalds is supposed to provide enough income for a nice suburban house, Beemer, etc. Doesnt work that way. Those are temp jobs for teens and retirees.

Great. Already overpriced, shit coffee will now double in price so purple haired college grads with degrees in gender studies can be overpaid. This just in: jobs like Starbucks weren’t meant to be the end all in life. You’re supposed to better yourself so you’re worth more on the job market and get paid more for natural reasons. Best of luck with all of this.

This is what bad policies do over time. Too bad, such a beautiful and historic city & its ruined. This has nothing to do with capitalism though. Nice try.

That sucks. So, people that worked and EARNED the right to live somewhere nice with property to enjoy now have to watch their property values tank along with having riff raff move into their neighborhood. Yeah, great. Now, that nice suburban home that someone worked hard for to buy is next to subsidized rentals.

Zoning laws are great and people need to fight to keep them. The goal should be to get people to improve their financial position so they can afford to live in the burbs too.

LOL. Banned on reddit is a badge of honor. It means you tweaked the underpants of the purple-haired admins by NOT shlepping up the left wing diatribe. :)

Hard to say. I bet it came from teachers or parents from years back. 😉

The idea that whatever comes out of Govt’s mouth should just be accepted as is. There are already serious issues arising with Fauci and Covid. Remember that guy? The battle cry was trust the science and shut up, little cretins. I dont want to go off on any Covid tangent but the idea that you just blindly accept what anyone tells you when it comes down to your lifestyle, standard of living, etc. should just be swallowed up without any questions is wrong, IMO.

Good for you. EVs have a place in most households for quick trips and short errands. But that’s it. They have a huge set of issues that the anti ICE car brigade don’t wish to discuss. Face it, batteries are not a viable way to power the vehicles we all rely on and enjoy driving. Maybe as a second vehicle, yes but forget some big takeover. It’s so stupid.

Anything is better than Reddit, IMO. Place is impossible to deal with and the bans are handed out arbitrarily…. But only if you don’t tow the decidedly left-leaning line. Users there are also more likely to be sissies as in running to the mods if you dare question them or cause them to need their crayons and safe space. You get the idea. I’m hoping this place is a little more balanced .

Here ya go. The “experts” have a terrible batting average. Its embarrassingly bad. The end of the article/listing even has a quote from an IPCC scientist about how all of this nonsesne is mostly just financially driven aka “wealth redistribution” (surprise!) versus actually about the climate. Sorry.

https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/50-years-of-failed-doomsday-eco-pocalyptic-predictions-the-so-called-experts-are-0-50/

Why is it wrong? Climate disasters have been being predicted and spewed about for a long time. What I understand is that there is more here than meets the eye. Look into more and you’ll understand better. Try sources without agendas for best results.

What line?

No - Im not looking for anything, actually. I just would prefer that those that chest-thump about this stuff would walk the talk and take a “lead”. But they refuse. What does “hit the brakes” mean? Are the rich going to also hit the brakes? Or is this all on us “little people” as usual?

Exactly - it is your duty to question the Government and the scientists that work for them. Lets be honest, the Govt’s track record for truth is a tad suspect and thats being extra nice. As I said earlier, the alarmists have been selling this to us(or trying to) in differently wrapped packages now for several decades. Even back in the 1970’s there were hysterical claims being made. None of it came anywhere close to being true. So, logically, people question it.

More importantly, people question the mitigation tactics which seem to only affect the lower/middle classes directly. Another tough thing for the average Joe to swallow.

Can you elaborate on the “hit the brakes immediately” or we’re all going to die statement? What “Science” backs this claim up? Legit science please, not from agenda-laden website.

Maybe so - you’ve also made your position on this clearly evident. Question nothing, just do what you’re told. Thats cool. :)

60 years of doom, gloom and sure destruction which has resulted in… nothing. Your science isnt working out. Its clear that we dont fully understand how this all works as we only have data from a tiny fraction of the Earths total history. Again, the predictions that have been harped on over the last several decades have all turned out to be false of greatly exaggerated. Those are the real facts.