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  • Wolfram alpha is much better for the purpose you describe than a generative LLM. The “show steps” button costs $5/mth.

    I’ve experimented with it for math (was stuck on a Project Euler problem, it did give me the algorithm but absolutely flounced it’s sample calculation), and it can get some stuff right, but provide an incorrect explanation. Or fuck up a numerical calculation entirely.

    Depending on what you are pursuing a degree in, another thing to keep in mind is that math conceptually builds on itself. If you are just trying to survive a math credit it’s like Cliff’s Noting a book for a paper - nothing will stick for you long term using AI.

    What class is it? PatrickJMT is good if you’ve gone to calculus.


  • Being able to research is not busy work. Being able to write an argument is not busy work. Being able to write a paper is an important skill that will not be made obsolete. Your inability to recognize the importance of these skills means your understanding of the world does not match reality, and your opinion on education is about as worthless as a $3 bill.

    As an educator, you do your field and your students a considerable disservice by failing to acknowledge either the pointlessness or the presence of busywork in the curriculum. Stress for the sake of learning is, indeed, important. Stress for the sake of stress is abuse. It is paramount for you to understand the difference, and it would be galling if you were to insinuate it doesn’t exist.

    You have not taken any form of class on pedagogy. You do not know what you are talking about.

    You are not an educator. You have not spent any time in education. You do not have the theory or the practice to know how students learn or what they need.


  • I have always taught my students how to use Wikipedia. I teach them to never cite Wikipedia, but I have an entire back pocket lesson on proper Wikipedia use that I have taught hundreds of times.

    It used to be that the students who refused to put effort in would just copy the first line from the first Google result without reading. This was easy to reject when grading. LLM slop can have the appearance of legitimate work at first, which can be frustrating when you are trying to quickly grade a stack of papers.


  • Kids using AI to generate the kind of meaningless busywork

    You’re projecting your own hang ups with school to be universal. Assignments are a part of learning, because practice is a part of learning. It is not “meaningless busywork” for a violinist to practice the same song for hours a day, any more than it is to have a child practice reading and responding to literature or drilling math problems.

    This anti intellectual streak is showing up everywhere. “Flat earthers” are invading physics Facebook groups and anti vaxxers are being put in charge of health organizations. There’s are symptoms of a world where the desire to learn is absent.

    Think about the immediate context of this conversation even - you are not an educator (abundantly clear from the assignment you proposed), and I am. I have taken multiple classes on child development and how to educate them, and have been in the classroom in several different environments across eight years.

    Sometimes, it is important that we be confused for a minute in the learning process. Sometimes, it is important that we struggle a little bit. There is a peak level of “stress” for learning. There needs to be a supportive environment that goes with that challenge, but without a combination of practice and a little bit of challenge things don’t really stick.

    AI is fundamentally antithetical to learning. Type in the question, get an answer. The answer could be true or not, nothing you did in imputing the question can really have an impact on that. No where to grow, nothing to improve or learn.