I think you’re wildly underestimating the cost of people’s time, resources, infrastructure etc

“You can’t have it both ways” is exactly right. If the internet was user funded, as in, the user subscribes to every website or internet service they wish to use, then the internet would probably stop existing. (maybe I’m being too dramatic but also maybe not)

What’s the true cost of YouTube without ads or data harvesting? Probably only the rich could afford a subscription, which in turn would destroy the platform user base.

Absolutely agree with your comment.

I don’t really know the solution either… I can’t afford to pay for all the things I enjoy online.

I was considering supporting 1 Twitch streamer I enjoy until I saw subscription cost. And if I paid that for every streamer or YouTuber I enjoy, I’d be broke in a single day lol.

I get so much incredibly good info and discussions online about my hobbies, all for no charge.

I used to subscribe on Patreon to my most useful resources/people, but in the end I just could afford it and had to cancel all my Patreon

I hate ads but I don’t understand how the internet would function without ads. No one could afford it

Wow I love your arrow keys, that’s brilliant

Yes sorry I was just counting paid work time. We have half an hour lunch break but it’s not included in the work hours. I assume that’s normal. E.g you are physically at work 8.5 hours with 30min unpaid lunch break in the middle, so total 8 “work hours”

I get 20 minutes break per day, but it’s not enough.

I set a timer for everything I do. I drink about 3 instant coffee per day and it’s roughly 3 minutes to make each coffee from leaving my desk, going to kitchen and returning. So that’s 10min already

Toilet time also counts as break time, and I usually need longer than 10min throughout the day.

Chatting to co-workers about personal life also break time and throughout the day with small conversations that’s easily 20min

The boss has never spoken to be about some days I record 1 hour break time… But I used to record toilet time separately and they said that’s too personal for time logging, and I should be recording toilet time as break time.

So they are watching, and I try reduce things that count as break time. Or work an extra 15min if I spent too long in toilet etc

Oh also didn’t mention lunch break because it’s not “on the clock” anyway. So you are physically present at work 8.5 hours but with 30min lunch. I assume that’s standard set up (lunch is unpaid time)

In an 8 hour day, I’d say probably 7 hours

The other hour probably bathroom trips, coffee/water breaks, occasional quick chats with coworkers throughout the day

I can’t hit a full 8 hours actual work unless I do a 9 hour day.

Sometimes I have a shorter lunch break or try not to poop until I get home lol, so I can hit 8 hours quicker

I’m still on Nova because it just works so right for me, many others I tried didn’t.

My needs are very basic

• A home screen I can place icons in specific positions (eg not forced auto sort)
• folders (drag multiple icons on top of each other to create a group/folder)
• Message count on icons, e.g my Whatsapp icon should show a little number indicating amount of new messages
• and finally, an app drawer showing all apps in a single list (without any fancy grouping)

Maybe this is normal now but years ago Nova seemed to be the only one that offered all these basic features together

What is wrong with flat pack? I heard they were good

(noob question probably)

Thanks for your reply.

I’ve heard many people mentioning EndevourOS and I think that’s based on Arch?

EndevourOS was top of my list to try next time I’m willing to give Linux another shot.

The most interesting distro I tried was MicroOS (opensuse immutable). I really liked the immutable concept, keeping the base OS clean and mess around inside containers. Very cool

2022 and 2023 I made multiple decent attempts to go Linux and I’ve finally ragequit back to Windows where things finally just work. Currently using WSL for my Linux needs.

So many frustrating hours.

• Unresolvable sound issues
• Multi monitor issues
• Size scaling issues
• Couldn’t get my games working even for Gold rated proton games
• Don’t think I ever got nvidia drivers working correctly
• Really struggled on some distros to find the correct packages for some things because they were named differently?
• Couldn’t find how to set a desktop background that filled my entire screen in Gnome. It kept repeating to fill the screen instead of just “zooming”
• Got 100% CPU usage in KDE just doing nothing
• Didn’t even want to start figuring how to run my Windows-only apps because by that time I was a bundle of stress and just wanted to use my pc without fighting it every step

Conclusion for me: Windows is best DE, so use Windows+WSL

I’m a bit sad about it because I’m getting more and more frustrated with Windows 11 direction. It seems each update brings a new configuration or “feature” that makes things more difficult for me.

I do feel I am being pushed out of Windows.

For about the last 10 years I try going Linux roughly every 3 years. So I’ll give it another shot in a couple of years.

I fully understand for some people it just works. But it is not yet my personal Year Of Linux Desktop

Self hosting nothing changed my life.

So much free time and less stress once I abandoned self hosting 😅