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    3 months ago

    epistemology theology.

    Ah, I see our disconnect. I don’t think of epidemiology as theology at all. I think of the abandonment of science throwing up all enquiry on a subject because its hard to test, but still using weak epidemiology to inform public policy, guidelines, and even lifestyle… that is theology.

    Epidemiology is a tool that can be used in science, it is hypothesis generating after all, but by itself it is not science, it is a part of science, not the end of science.

    Weak epidemiology can be engineered for any result you want… Paper - Grilling the data: application of specification curve analysis to red meat and all-cause mortality

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      Yes, there does seem to be a disconnect here.

      Using weak epidemiology to inform public policy, etc, is bad.

      Calling epidemiology guessing, or saying that it’s use is “not in the realm of empiricism but of theology” is hyperbole. If you’re going to critique a paper because it’s being presented to a layman audience, you should probably avoid that (that being: exaggeration. Don’t do that.).

      This has, more or less been my point for this entire comment chain. Your exaggeration is harmful to your overall argument. Especially because people take up a sports-team sort of ideological following for eating meat vs not eating meat. I’d be especially avoidant of exaggeration for that reason.

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        3 months ago

        I didn’t say epidemiology was guessing

        I said the statistical controls for confounding variables are guesses. And that is true

        I didn’t say epidemiology was theology.

        The abandonment of science, falling back onto week epidemiology is theology

        I don’t know how to express this more clearly