I don’t know where else to put this. I’m sorry if it’s in the wrong place and will move it if it’s not appropriate here.

Every time I read anything from so-called solarpunks, it reads like slightly left of centre ravings of doomsday preppers. They seem to love many of the same fascist talking points. For example, individualism self-sufficiency , which sounds a lot like the frontier cowboy fantasies of right-wing nutters. They promote what essentially is subsistence farming, which is a terrible way to live. There’s a reason this kind of shit leads to famine in developing countries. An almost enthusiastic fantasy surrounding primitism and the loss of technology. There are so many issues, I could go on. Unless I’m missing something (possible) I don’t see much appealing about solarpunk because it seems to have a delusional nostalgia for the “good old days”, much in the way conservativism does.

Is it really as crackpot as it sounds? If not, what am I missing?

  • jetAEnglish
    17·
    1 年前

    I think the main thing you’re missing is when people are self-reliant, you don’t hear about them.

    Getting ready for a future of renewable energy, making society more sustainable, why are these things you resist?

    • jetAEnglish
      7·
      1 年前

      If it’s just the naming you have issues with, countries talk about this all the time in terms of critical energy independence, that’s solar punk at the nation state level

    • darkphotonstudio@beehaw.orgOP
      34·
      1 年前

      Because what I see is knee-jerk reaction to tech and as you said, "self-reliance"which sounds like a cross between American exceptionalist frontier nonsense mixed with feudalism. It also parallels the anti-globalist wingnut paranoia. If that is supposed to be sustainability, no thanks. And no, I’m not an anarchist, I’m a socialist. Your ideals don’t have a monopoly on a more sustainable future. It’s like libertarians saying, “why do you hate freedom”.

      • jetAEnglish
        12·
        1 年前

        You’re really negative.

        I didn’t say they were my ideas, but you’ve ascribed them to me and insulted me in the same sentence.

        Whatever better socialist future you’re envisioning, that’s great, let’s work towards a better future for everybody

            • darkphotonstudio@beehaw.orgOP
              52·
              1 年前

              Not at all. It was as much a challenge as a question. I suspect some push back, I was just hoping I’d learn something useful. What I’m picking up is that it’s not a fully formed set of ideals agreed upon by everyone. Which I suppose I shouldn’t expect among leftists anyway lol. Thanks for the response.

          • jetAEnglish
            4·
            1 年前

            Wingnut paranoia

            Your ideas don’t have a monopoly on a more sustainable future

            So you’re saying they’re my ideas, and that their wing nut paranoid ideas. That’s an insult and an attribution

            • darkphotonstudio@beehaw.orgOP
              31·
              1 年前

              That wasn’t my intention and the quote is out of context (you left out “sounds like”) but if you want to be insulted, that’s your perogative .

              • jetAEnglish
                5·
                1 年前

                I think a reasonable interpretation of your previous comment, was that it was intended to be insulting, and combative. Perhaps I am mistaken, and I’m willing to entertain that… But that’s my reading

                Communication is not what is intended, it is what is perceived.

                • Juno@beehaw.orgBanned
                  2·
                  1 年前

                  So you go around and pick on other people too and try to force your opinion on them eh?