kill yourself and everyone around you but make it ecofash redditorTbh this kid was severely disturbed and exploited by what appears to be half a dozen self harm cults that exist on the periphery of social medias like tumblr and reddit.
Looks like textbook “i had a best friend who was the only one who understood me” stuff that is actually two people who desperately needed psychiatric help encouraging eachother into greater levels of harm. You see it with eating disorders and other cultish movements like incels which prey on kids of this age.
This shit has bubbled under the surface for years but it was ignored as long as it affected individuals. God knows what will happen now that some are becoming militant against others in their own harm.
right wing ideology repackaged into faux concern about the suffering of other people. Could have done a Luigi or Rodney L Hinton but noo, why would you do something that benefits society and maybe improves material conditions or sends a message to the rich elite / their cronies.
This is what a few hundred years of capitalism does to people
The last paragraph really drives home that this person just led a fucked up and depressing existence, and then, on top of that, a close friend dying/being murdered/suiciding in a clearly confusing arrangement.
I dunno. I don’t feel overly angry at this person, what they’ve done is utterly and truly awful and should never have been done. But I can see how an awful life like that could totally warp your view of the world. I’m extremely mad at our shit society that frequently lets people get to this point without helping them or really giving a shit.
Yeah this was very close to my worldview after a life of trauma, until I slowly shifted towards leftism then Marxism. A sort of reification of mental illness and despair into a quasi-ideology.
It takes more than a nudge for these feelings to develop into a belief system and produce results like this. The West expends so much energy eradicating leftist thought from the culture, giving unmaterialist and destructive ideologies like this an evolutionary advantage. Not to mention how many cases like this are likely enabled/influenced/caused by feds.
I’m mostly just sad.
But I can see how an awful life like that could totally warp your view of the world.
yeah i’m not gonna go bomb a fertility clinic but my life has been predominately suffering and it would be a crime to force someone to live many of our lives.
Is anyone else increaseingly worried they’ll get taken out by one of these maniacs. America is so unsafe, but everyone acts like its nbd. I hate it. I dream of the day I’m in China and won’t have to worry im gonna get blown up, or shot randomly while grocery shopping or something.
By the most alienated idiot with the most stupid “ideology”
One of my biggest fears is being killed by one of these people, but specifically in large part because of the indignity of being killed by one of these types of jackasses.
Misanthropy with Mass Effect characteristics.
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As someone who is trans and fled the United States recently because of the political situation- The psychic damage from constantly being exposed to mass shootings and other attacks is real and it does affect quality of life and I think it’s rude as hell to paint people as cowards for wanting to emigrate.
I didnt see the comment you replied to before it got deleted but i can kinda guess what it was since ive seen similar sentiment before. I appreciate you replying to it for me. The whole thing kinda baffles me. Arent leftists supposed to be pro-immigration? My grandparents werent even born here. They left a place my ancestors lived for thousands of years, and im supposed to stick around in this horrible place we’ve only been in for like 50 years? Why?
People will tell me like i need to “stay and fight for a better America.” Like why the fuck would i do that? I might be American on paper (for now) but culturally i am not. I hate this place. The people i love arent American for the most part. I don’t celebrate the same holidays as most Americans. I dont eat the same foods as them.
The geographical location of your birth does not and should not dictate who you are, and what you can do. Period.
the other part of it was that it’s a privilege to be able to leave, which i think stands but calling folks cowards for getting out definitely isn’t appropriate.
my net worth is literally negative and i live below the poverty line lmao thats so funny. Im just betting on getting a job in China once i get a degree and never coming back to the US so i don’t have to pay back student loans.
yeah that would be my plan if i was younger and neurologically able to get a degree
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How’s it on the outside
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First Anime-American suicide bomber
I read this whole thing and the words “despair is typical of those who do not understand the causes of evil” crashed through the roof and destroyed my fish tank.
I’m not a psycho, but…
A true nihilist would have just killed himself and been done with it. Instead overdose of liberalism and hyper individualism makes people just not want to live, but also make a show of murdering other people, because the “show” puts them and their ego on the center stage.
he shits on nihilism in the (alleged) manifesto
Post contains ableism, r-slur, discussion and encouragement of self-harm, links to transphobia, anti-furry, anti-autism, probably more toxic content but noped out.
[self-harm, speculation]
Says a close friend had her boyfriend shoot her in the head while sleeping sometime in the last 28 days, links to her social media where she says she’s an aro wlw terf, says he told her he would soon follow if she ever went through with it since he’d never find someone else who would understand him.
He seems to plainly admit to a lot of heinous things, so maybe not a reason to lie about it, but I suspect this may be a murder-suicide.
Also have an awful feeling despite all the awful stuff, carnists are going to focus on “he was a vegan” like they vegetarianjacket hitler to try to justify their unethical behahiour.
Yeah I saw that too. After leaving the mod team of vegan circlejerk that whole community was tied to antinatalism and it upset me to see that. I wrote a statement on it and this for the vegan theory club:
https://vegantheoryclub.org/post/1589146 https://hexbear.net/post/4951471
So that’s what happened to VCJ, I pretty much stopped reading it after the antinatalism stuff started popping up all over that sub. Sucks, because I always thought that was one of the only good subs on that shithole site and as sad as it is to admit, the posts on there making fun of carnists and vegetarians helped me go vegan.
Hundreds of people have told me that it helped them go vegan while I modded it from 2018 - 2023 but the increasing scrutiny of the admins was annoying, having my long time account HamidPayaamAbbasi get banned, and it was starting to make me mad having to sign into reddit and approve everything. When all the anarchists stepped down it was left to a few libs who started the antinatalism shit.
My goodbye from reddit post was this
(random bad guy) didn’t eat meat so actually somehow that makes you bad too and im good for eating an animal that was kept in a tiny box since it was a baby to stop its bones from getting hard and keep its meat soft. im not basically perpetuating a holocaust at all.
I thought Hitler was a vegetarian, not fully vegan.
He wasn’t even vegetarian. He still are meat, just infrequently since it upset his stomach
Like if people that is going to use it to attack veganism cares about the difference
Legit had a carnist tell me verbatim just the other day that “the Nazis were the first people to take animal rights seriously.”
Really didnt have a anime-brainedpoisoned new-athiest anti-natalist carmakazi bomber on my 2025 bingo card.
But here we are.
In the download directory, you should be able to find an mp3 file where I explain, but basically, I’m a promortalist. Efil blaise explains what this is quite well.
We had a thread here about Efilists subreddit just a week or two ago and this happens. Someone took the Inmendham jrpg villian arc seriously
Smelled like fed shit then and it smells like fed shit now. The right has been itching for someone like this to come along and here they are. They also left an audio diary and a webzone explaining their motives in a way that fits exactly with the right’s grudges against environmentalists.
The fed shit is putting a magnifying glass on these bullshit reddit philosophies and actively encouraging their spread, because they know someone like this (or lots of someones) will do stuff like this. This isn’t a “false flag” or anything, just the natural consequences of the feds steering people away from leftist political thought and into nonsensical right wing violence.
Yeah they don’t have to create the groups or do false flags, they can just seize and amplify groups that help them and sway people into action.
Inmendham
oh holy fuck this unlocked some memories
- (specifically of him being a much-derided figure in the “new atheist” youtube circles back when I watched that shit in the late 2000’s)
least brainwormed burger
real life person with the philosophy of an over the top supervillain
The Efilists’ ideology came about within a year of Gurren Lagann being distributed in the US. I have no evidence of this but I swear it looks like the guy behind Efilism literally just saw the fucking Anti-Spirals and thought “neat, this is definitely a coherent and reasonable ideology, DNA really is the ultimate evil that will destroy everything, we should be the antithesis of all life and progress”. Efilism is literally a cartoon villain ideology, and not just in the abstract it’s literally one specific, somewhat famous cartoon villain ideology.
How is that the TTGL ideology that caught on irl? Is it that the type of guy who unironically lifts his ideology from anime just definitionally isn’t cool enough to be Kamina?
You know there’s something seriously wrong with capitalist society when a ”philosophy” as nonsensical as efilism is developed.
Whoa, it’s like…life spelled backwards, that means we should kill everyone. That’s so deep.I also think this post needs CWs for ableism and self-harm, the last paragraph on that site is so sad
Average efilist fan vs average htaedist enjoyer
All a promortalist is saying is let’s make it happen sooner rather than later (and preferably peaceful rather than some disease or accident), to prevent your future suffering, and, more importantly, the suffering your existence will cause to all the other sentient beings.
Wow they killed one person whoo. Suffering is over for all sentient beings! lets go
It’s not like you can end all suffering, delete the universe by snapping your fingers.
It’s not like you can end all suffering, delete the universe by snapping your fingers.
no they just think life is bad, there’s inherent value in the universe. somehow.
AFAIK the reasoning is
Suffering = bad
Joy = good
No suffering = good
No joy = neutralTherefore, life, which contains suffering and joy, is neutral. But no life, which would avoid suffering entirely, would be good. The inherent value in the universe is the avoidance of suffering.
Anti-Buddhism
yeah the leap i don’t get is how you get from no life and no suffering > yes life and yes suffering to “a bunch of rocks and plasma floating around has inherent value”.
value is subjective and there’s no subjectivity without consciousness
Aye, I think they would probably agree with that actually. They just believe that there’s a kind of derived positive value from avoiding suffering. I think you could probably agree with that, it’s a good thing when you can make a decision that reduces the suffering of others, even though the value of that action is never subjectively experienced by anyone.
IMO the weakest point is to assert that “no joy = neutral”. I’m not an ethical philosopher, but if my friend paid off a delivery driver to not deliver my food I’d be pretty pissed off, even though all that happened was that I didn’t get to experience a positive thing.
but if my friend paid off a delivery driver to not deliver my food I’d be pretty pissed off, even though all that happened was that I didn’t get to experience a positive thing.
that example isn’t you not experiencing a positive thing, your food not showing up as expected is a negative thing, even if you get a refund and so on.
the “no joy” bit only applies to never being alive in the first place. The baby i don’t have because of birth control will never suffer nor experience joy and boy howdy would any kid of mine have suffered the whole time because of my circumstances.
that example isn’t you not experiencing a positive thing, your food not showing up as expected is a negative thing, even if you get a refund and so on.
IMO if the source of the negative feeling is that something good didn’t happen (regardless of expectation) it’s an example of absence of joy. Like, how is it different, from a purely empirical/experiential perspective to not live a life at all, and to live a “life” that is completely devoid of any experience (e.g. a stillborn who was never conscious). That’s still absence of joy either way, although another point where I differ from antinatalists is that I think life in itself has value, independent of experience.
if you’re never conscious you never have a subjective self.
i’m down right miserable because of good things that don’t happen, because i know they could happen. some even happened before but probably never will again. other people are experiencing them.
can your framework not tell the difference between malicious deprivation, circumstantial not-happening, and the oblivion of there not being a conscious mind to begin with?
Seriously, wouldn’t real anti-natalist “praxis” be like dumping a bunch of birth control in the water supply?
if you take anti natalism to its real logical extreme, then you have to actually want the human race to prosper enough to build a giant sun death laser that eradicates all life in the galaxy periodically on auto pilot and then kill your entire species
That’s actually a really good question because there’s no way, even with 100% of the sun’s mass going into the effort, that we could actually zap everything in the galaxy to death. We’d have to instead have a signal so depressing that, as soon as a species decodes it, they’d be guaranteed to start sending out a similar signal and destroy all life within zapping range. A sort of interstellar bird box, written and directed by Todd Solondz.
We’d have to instead have a signal so depressing that, as soon as a species decodes it, they’d be guaranteed to start sending out a similar signal and destroy all life within zapping range. A sort of interstellar bird box, written and directed by Todd Solondz.
Is this an scp?
maybe a giant ring, perhaps?
nah being against birth is distinct from being for omnicide.
Not spectacular enough, needs to be the DNA-eating poison from Promentheus
wow what a cringlord. praise allah he blew his dumb ass up
