You understand they’re going to keep doing this until you stop them, right?
And you understand that there are a significant number of people working to do so, and that doing it correctly is not an overnight process?
No. There really aren’t. There are people talking about how terrible it is. Some are making cute little signs and doing parades.
Nobody is “working to stop them.”
I’m so, so fucking sick and tired of all the doomer shut-in fuckwits who think that we’re going to fix this by doing a Jan 6 style raid on the White House. That’s not how any of this works. I went to a No Kings protest. You want to know what happened before/after the “parade”? Thousands of people signed up to move our state towards ranked choice voting, information was given out on protecting your community from ICE, and people are getting resources to be more politically active. Literally every political advocacy org in my area has absolutely exploded and we’re at a point where we’re having to pause memberships because there are so many people trying to join.
Real change takes a bit of fucking time and I’m so, so, so sick and tired of all the people who act like no one is doing anything, while they themselves do fuck-all but doom scroll on Lemmy and post about how it’s all over.
It’s a boss battle, and bitching about how people are just dodge rolling and parrying and have barely chipped away at the health bar is absolutely asinine.
Doomers or agents provacateur?
I’ve been thinking about this for a while now. Especially when these people come out of the woodwork to push productive conversation into extremist territory. It’s probably a good idea for everyone to keep an eye out and not rise to the bait.
Anyway, don’t let me derail things. Let’s keep it civil and keep telling these yahoos to take a hike.
Fuck yeah this is the correct kind of comment right here.
the problem is many believe you’re not winning this via signatures or advocacy groups or resources to provide info to stop the literal SS. I think that’s the frustration with many people.
I understand it’s a “boss battle” but I think what confuses many outsiders looking in is the notion that for the longest time the impression of the US has been “gun loving patriotic ‘don’t tread on me’ nation” and when people see the lack of gun loving patriots allowing themselves to be tread all over they’re like “you ok America?”
I mean trust me as someone who lives directly above you guys I’d love nothing more than to see you start knocking teeth in because I absolutely hate living above a Nazi country.
No one is saying signitures are what will win. However, protests and activist gatherings are how you reach new people. Yeah, they don’t work alone. They’re how you start in the bigger stuff though. Any successful resistance starts slow and small. The ones that don’t die quickly.
The Dream of a Thousand Cats.
And hopefully that all motivates more people to vote this time around. I assume there are a lot more liberally minded people in the US than Magats, anyway. Though that’s not proving out at the ballot box, though.
yeah bud, and they lost the last election.
Thoughts and prayers aren’t gonna help you.
Neither are protests. Or votes.
Yes you absolutely will need Jan6-style raids - a lot of them.Good luck.
Thank you, we will absolutely need it.
Whew. Okay, uh- I guess, when they’re loading you into one of the the vans you can take some satisfaction in having really given a piece of your mind to some guy on the internet who suggested you bring something other than pillows to a gunfight.
Did I mention one of the organizations is the SRA? I’m well aware of the possibility of being loaded into a van and I’m going to do my damned best to keep myself, my friends, and people in my community out of them.
the SRA?
Is that the Socialist Rifle Association? Didn’t know they existed… cool.
Almost sounds like you enjoy things being so bad, because nobody who has a normal opinion about it talks like this.
The husband in OP pic is literally someone doing something
I get why ppl are downvoting you but you do have a point. What are people doing? Writing strongly worded letters? Putting them “on blast” on their socials? Sharing an article. I know what you mean, and there’s only one thing that can stop fascists once they have power because they will never give it up
I wonder how long until it’s officially illegal to oppose the asswipe.
And that is called fascism.
As it says right there on the image. Why just repeat it with nothing added? It’s on the same level of “first” comments, just takes up space and fishing for votes.
Not because of a lack of rules and guidelines?
I would already consider it pretty risky to run the app without doing some pretty serious privacy protections.
She should sue.
And then what? It’s not like this government cares about lawsuits.
A judge will award her s nice payout.
Which she will just not get.
Which would Crater the economy. The US government not paying it’s debts world enrage the donor class backing all this shit
You don’t get the point. It would just get referred to the next higher up court until the supreme court just drops the thing with something like “If the president gives me a blowjob I will do whatever he wants”.
They haven’t really concerned themselves with civil damage cases like this, so your doomerism isn’t needed here.
Depending on which state she works in, she might have no rights. Many states have a right to fire an employee for any reason.
As always there is a german word for this: „Sippenhaft“, collective punishment.
She was used as leverage against the extended family of a guilty person, making relatives liable with their freedom, property, or lives. ‘Sippenhaft’ usually meant imprisonment in a concentration camp. (Taken from Wikipedia)
Widely used by the Nazis - who could have known.
The app is a PsyOP by ICE to deport more Immigrants, and this whole stunt might as well be a part of it
The GrapheneOS team already did a great disection of this iOS only app and why it is not anonyme at all (+ that they are fucking lying about Aosp and encouraging People to buy a phone known for spying on them
Therefore, its extremely easy to guess that at some point the US is going to Apple HQ with a court order to disclose everyone who downloaded the app, since, once again, iOSs App store discloses such things to Apple.
https://bsky.app/profile/grapheneos.org/post/3lt2prfb2vk2r
Link to GrapheneOSs Payback
It was quite obvious from the start to any technical person, that iceblock was a terrible idea. Sadly hype generally doesnt follow the recommendations of well meaning IT people.
At least we have more content for c/leopardsatemyface
But on a more serious note, as long as people dont learn the basics such as „Youtube ad“ and „privacy“ in the same sentence are a honeypot and that you cant have privacy if your Root device itself is the threat youre trying to hide from, it is never going to change
On the other hand, if you set up a botnet to spam that service and get millions of people to sign up from everywhere, that data quickly becomes more useless. You can’t use it to target dissidents if everyone is a dissident.
I’d prefer not visiting the daily beast but, unless she was feeding info to her husband for the app, how does firing her even prevent the app?
It’s a cruel, yet impotent, punishment.
It doesn’t, it sends a message.
Show of hands for anyone surprised by this at this stage?
This showed a couple more verified results than the iceblock app recently, and it needs less data to provide notifications.
Nice! A website is a much better idea than an app. You can, theoretically, hide yourself on a website (though not by default, and almost no one will be anonymous if the site wants to collect data, including people with privacy plug-ins).
If they start a GoFundMe, I’ll kick in.
Hate being the grammar Nazi, but she didn’t *lose her job for who she married".
She lost her job because of who she’s married to.
She isn’t a hero who saved her husband by losing her job. She’s a criminal whose crime is being married to her husband.
At least that’s what the wording implies quite strongly.
Most grammar nazis I know would go with “whom” for the object of a preposition.
Not me.
‘Whom’ is the last vestage of cases in English, and I’d absolutely love to see them go. The only use for ‘whom’ I have is mocking the British, really.
So selective application of the rules, got it.
Feel free to call it that.
However, languages change with time. Even ones with formally prescribed rules do.
In most languages and cultures there’s a tendency of speaking the “standard” dialect (or something close to it) in formal situations, and using a more relaxed form in everyday situations. English isn’t like that - just look at anthing US politicians say - they don’t strike me as using “formal” speech in the least.
There’s also the distinction between “British” and “American” English. And I never heard a “whom” from an American ever, be it in real life or on TV, so to me it seems like an inherently “British” thing.
So appliying the rules “selectively” doesn’t really bother me - especially when the incorrect way is so ubiquitous that it’s more common than the pseudoprescribed way.
I’m content as long as the selectivity isn’t dialed up so much that I need to use arm and leg gestures to communicate effectively.
For non-U.S. Americans, I hear “whom” all the time here, like not a day goes by without hearing some co-worker use it.
I agree though languages change with time.
Most grammar nazis I know would probably go with “Not I”
…so is she married to he or is she married to him?..
Is “cases” a typo? If not, what does it mean in this context?
Grammatical case. I can only really describe it in German. If you take the sentence “The boy gives the man the apple”, it’s “Der Junge gibt dem Mann den Apfel”. “Der” is masculine form of “the” in the Nominative case. “Den” is the masculine form of “the” in the Accusative case. “Dem” is the masculine form of “the” in the Dative case. It’s subject, indirect object, direct object, respectively, if you know verbs. There’s also the Genitive case, which I didn’t go into here.
The reason it’s not sufficient to talk about subject, direct object, and indirect object though is because the grammatical case also goes beyond just a noun’s relationship to a verb, it’s also affected by prepositions. If you take the German sentence “I’m driving with the Man, but without the Apple” (I know, sort of a silly sentence), "ich fahre mit dem Mann, aber ohne den Apfel. The prepositions here, “mit” and “ohne”, dictate that the two masculine nouns in the sentence get the masculine form of “the” in the Dative case and Accusative case, respectively. The reason why some prepositions dictate certain cases isn’t clear to me. I just have the tables memorized :D
Cases are a thing in languages with inflections such as Latin, Greek, German, slavic ones, and quite a few others. English used to have them in the middle ages, but they faded away in favour of prepositions, and the only place they still exist is who/whom.
Apparently he/him/his and she/her/hers are also inflections, but they seem different enough to not “feel” like inflections of the same root (especially she/her). Since inflections are not a common thing in English, one conceptually doesn’t even know they aren’t seperate words but deeply connected on a morphological level was opposed to particles (by, for, of, with). Especially someone without the context of knowing how they work in languages that utilize them on a more fundamental level.
However, looking at these words as if they’re particles and not inflecions is a simple enough way to know how to use them (that’s why you probably haven’t heard of them).
Informally, leaving that preposition hanging at the end is fine, but for formal writing, you’d be locked away by the grammar cops:
“She lost her job because of the person to whom she is married.”
