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What did you think of this week’s chapter?

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  • drinkinglakewater [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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    4 months ago

    Moria being a Kozuki is one of the most “well ok” lore drops of all time. Kinda funny Wano is honouring such a scumbag

    Harald is fully Gorbachev’d now, chasing a false promise of peace under the thumb of hegemony.

    • hello_hello [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      4 months ago

      Gecko Moria only became a scumbag after Kaido and the Beast pirates wiped out his entire crew. He serves as a foil to Luffy whose will was broken and he doesn’t want to ever get a living crew again only to lose them all.

      I literally don’t know how to feel about Kozuki Moria though, such a bombshell drop when everyone was thinking that this would be some lore tidbit. Yamato cover story is eating good now.

    • hello_hello [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      4 months ago

      It’s so funny to see Harald get crushed by what’s basically an ant-sized person to him. Though I think this fight was symbolizing a breaking of their friendship rather than Harald earnestly trying to kill his long time friend (unless Harald was truly the rat).

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    4 months ago

    Its funny how before this arc, everyone was thinking Rocks would be on the same level of scummy evil as Blackbeard, but Oda really said “actually he’s Dragon if he stopped looking East and actually did shit but was also a pirate”

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    4 months ago

    The Rayleigh/Shakky relationship is really funny. I love how these chapters also do the one piece recontextualization shtick but its just Roger getting shafted. Now luffy inherits his will but hes an aro-ace king so lmao no pirate king is getting laid.

    Also get fucked Harald I hope Loki murders your reformist ass.

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    4 months ago

    Not that relevant to the chapter, but how good do you think the ending of one piece will be politically?

    I love One Piece and trust Oda, but I think it might be heading towards a reformist direction in the end. With “good” Marines taking over. I don’t hate some marine characters, but I think they totally deserve to be killed, if they stand against the revolution. Like Koby is cute, but if he died in a raid by the revolutionaries while trying to protect some monarchists on their way to the dictator convention kindly hosted by genocidal slavers, well, sorry but he brought it on himself. Of course for plot convenience, the people doing the raid that day were cartoonishly evil pirates, but it could easily have been otherwise.

    I can’t relate to how Garp is hyped up. He should have died fighting to protect the people of God valley. The fact, that he’s still alive condemns him.

    I don’t like how the narrative that most marines are good and saving lives daily is successfully pushed in the fan base. More like holding up slavery, monarchy and genocide daily.

    Should I be less worried about that aspect of the ending potentially falling short? I’m sure I’ll be able to greatly enjoy it overall anyway, but this aspect might get annoying.

    • hello_hello [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      4 months ago

      Thank you for making this comment since I see this brought up a lot in the fandom and it never being handled well.

      I think Oda is saying that the marines themselves represent a large and organized military force being controlled by the WG. If the revolutionaries depose the nobles, you’ll still need to answer the question of where this world spanning military will go.

      I think Koby and the SWORD plotline is to set up him taking the lead and making sure the marines dont overthrow the revolution. But its not so clear cut at this point and Oda loves throwing curve balls.

      Garp is condemned and his retribution is giving his life to koby and the next generation to choose justice over rank.

      I think Oda has this in the bag, but it will still be lib since its shonen jump

    • drinkinglakewater [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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      4 months ago

      The villager says that daddy is away, so that’s either referring to Garling or some third party character we don’t see. It’s possible that in the incident at God Valley, the twins are separated from their birth parents and Shanks goes with Roger and Shamrock with Garling.

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    4 months ago

    We got the shanks and shamrock reveal this chapter too. I wonder what the secret of God Valley was. Also fucking based that they rejected joining the WG especially in the 4 blues.