This year has had a lot of punching down. We have regressed as a nation and lost irreplaceable elements of our government. We are sliding into fascism. This has not been a good year.
To have someone, anyone, remotely responsible die under such perfectly ironic circumstances was cathartic. Having the (alleged) shooter be a “Groyper” from the far right was cathartic. Seeing right wing politicians doing 180s after having declared civil war was cathartic (also terrifying).
However, it is STILL toxic to be continually gleeful about this guy dying a ironic death. Not because of online moderation or a “appropriate discourse” or respect for the dead, but from a human (i.e. me and you the reader) standpoint.
Celebration of his death. Celebration of the resulting trauma to the individuals in the crowd of mostly college students. Trying to get kicks from pointing out yet another ironic detail from the killing. Finding ironic quotes from his past. It not healthy nor does it shape you (or me) into a well balanced human being. It makes you (and me) a terminally online nihilistic asshole. It makes Lemmy a darker place. It makes snuff films slighty more palettable.
Rest in piss, Kirk. There was much to hate about you. I had my laughs. I am done playing with your corpse. I’m going to touch grass.
Let’s use this to reflect on the fact that Trump is a pedophile and the senate voted to block the release of the Epstein files cos that’s what important
I would love it if releasing the files brought the whole GOP (and any rapist Democrats) down, but I am starting to doubt it would change any minds. Let’s not let the Epstein files distract us from the new damage. A couple examples:
New Bill Would Give Marco Rubio “Thought Police” Power to Revoke U.S. Passports
https://lemmy.world/post/35851464Trump Administration officially moves to reverse Biden’s US Wind approval
https://lemmy.world/post/35840768Maybe so but at least I could definitively tell magats that they worship a pedophile in rebuttal to anything they ever say. I also think that magats would process that more easily than them trying to understand any bills being passed cos they can barely read. It does me no good cos I’m aware of all the shit they’re doing.
Is there not enough proof already to show them? Will they even accept proof?
They’d never admit to it but it’ll be there in the back of their mind
Have you looked at the PDFs?
Epstein files are coming out and they’re getting overshadowed by these shootings.
That would be the point I’m making
To quote someone here who I’ll never find because I’m on piefed:
“I do not see it morally as a very big problem that a person explicitly says that something is acceptable and then that thing is done to him. He wanted a certain kind of society and he got the kind of society he wanted. If there is life after death, he can spend that time being content of having changed the society.”
We are celebrating with Charlie, not against him
Debbie Downer over here. Just let people experience a little joy once in a while, it’s good for them.
People can have a little bit of toxic shitposting, as a treat.
But you can celebrate it and still move on. Watch me.
Same. I just feel a bit gross afterwards.
There’s a reason soldiers get PTSD (shellshock). And I understand your post while also understanding politicians, as tools of the filthy rich, have declared war on their own citizens, a long time ago (9-11). It’s time for all of us to wake up.
ETA: this post isn’t about Kirk other than just another event in a history of events. Your feelings are valid.
This is called post-nut clarity
I dunno.
I’ve been celebrating Nancy Reagan’s death for years. Still feels pretty good.
Kirk was a tad irrelevant by comparison, but it’s poetic to see the guy fall victim to his own ideology. I think he’d have wanted to go that way.
The upside is that it provides a fine opportunity to block people as their masks fall off.
In any case, people become better at things they practice. In this case that’s celebrating the replacement of discource and argument, by violence and murder.
I find that disgusting.
And just how is not celebrating it going to help? Will having the moral high ground make you feel better when you’re in the concentration camp?
Celebrating or not will have no impact on the possibility of camps. Its not even about moral high ground or national politics. I’m talking about the mental wellbeing of people whose bright spot of the month is Kirk dying violently to a neo-nazi.
It makes them feel like they’re somehow above it all. It is the moral high ground for them. They live in a world where this one event is traumatic, but the continued suffering of those being directly oppressed by people like Kirk somehow isn’t. This idea of “this isn’t who we are” is turning a blind eye to the continued suffering of people that aren’t them. It’s optics above everything else though. No one is asking what their opinion on all of this is. It takes nothing to just not speak.
Check my recent comments. I was having fun with it along with everyone else. This is also Lemmy. The political range is from leftist to far leftist.
No one is asking what their opinion on all of this is. It takes nothing to just not speak.
Literally check the sub this is in.
Fuck that. We should revel in this fuckers death and pray more may follow. Taking the high road is stupid and cowardly at this point.
