• aaa@lemmy.zip
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    3 days ago

    After skimming through the Country section of the Wikipedia article on capital gains tax, it seems that the rate of capital gains tax is commonly lower than that of labour. Quite a few places also had capital gains tax removed in favour of a total tax rate on income + capital gains.

    Personally, I think it’s important to tax capital gains closer to labour tax rates, to better distribute wealth. But a more efficient way is maybe by wealth tax. I would even consider lowering taxes on businesses for a wealth tax (as to not cause exodus of the rich - the point is not to get rid of them, just their massive wealth and means of hoarding too much).

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      2 days ago

      How do you calculate “wealth”? It’s obviously not impossible, but it’s easier for billionaires to game their wealth then it is capital gains.

      Tax capital gains much more than labor and tax loans on capital and a wealth tax will eventually be redundant. I do think either way we will need a one time wealth tax to redistribute capital.

      We do not need the rich, the point is to get rid of them. Rent seekers and money changers aren’t a necessary part of the economy and there is no legitimate reason to keep them.

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        2 days ago

        I am far from an expert in the practical aspects of calculating wealth, but seems doable by the fact that wealth tax exists in countries today.

        I too think it would be nice to tax capital gains higher than labour, but I am unsure how it would impact pension savers - both those who save by owning a home and those who invest in equities and bonds. I think I could only accept a very high capital gains tax if state funded retirement would cover full costs of living in cities, and reasonable lower bounds on retirement age. But this seems impossible with large shares of private ownership of homes in cities - they would likely be able to charge exorbitant prices for living if every old person had a comfortable pension. So I guess we shouldn’t have private ownership of homes. But I dunno.

        Speaking of a one time wealth tax, would a 100% inheritance tax accomplish what you want? Just curious about how you see the redistribution of wealth happening, as I am myself unsure how it should happen in practice.

        When you say we don’t need the rich, do you mean that we don’t need those particular individuals, or that we don’t need them having their wealth? Is getting rid of them achievable by getting rid of their wealth and the means to hoard?

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          Its all hypothetical of course, but if you had the support for a 100% inheritance tax, you likely have the support for like a 99% wealth tax for anyone over 100M.

          Either one require a peoples revolution in my opinion, as were currently going the opposite way.

          I am saying we don’t need wealth hoarders, we could effectively ban anyone having over $50M and everything would keep on working fine. In fact things would almost certainly be better.

          I am of the mind that we tax regular corporations much higher than co-ops to try to push every business towards mostly employee ownership.