as someone that could probably never use an EV for various reason and also hate them for various reasons, also tell me how down ICE car sales are down.
because I luv my ICE car, but boi do I hate the people that made it
I cant use them because there’s 0 infrastructure here for them (eastern eu), I live in a flat so no garage with charger
And I hate them in general because they’re mostly tech with a giant cost instead of an affordable car. The ones that are affordable also usually come with terrible battery life or other super degraded basic features… At least from my knowledge so far
They’re also built very unethically in one way or another just like ICE cars…
All in all I’d rather buy a second hand car and line the pockets of a random dude than contribute to the car giants…
I see charging stations all over the map in Romania? But yeah, that’s understandable. Just unfortunate that it’s one of those supply/demand problem… no one would see the benefit of building a public charging station near their business if there’s not many people who’d use it.
If you’re looking at used cars, that can also contribute. There’s basically no service needed, so there’s not as many people like who try to time selling their ICE car before they might need to do some more expensive servicing. And those who are selling for affordable prices are often much older models -> worst technology.
But that’s all good points. Hopefully in 10 years the used electric market can become somewhat sustainable…
Without doxxing myself, the nearest charging station to my previous workplace is like 500 metrrs away. It’s only got 2 outlets too… Mostly used all the time with no gaps. It’s also dead in the middle of the busiest area.
The other one is about 1km away.
With charging it would double my time getting to work probably. I don’t think I can leave the car plugged in for 8 hours either… I’d have to get out of work, take my car off the charger then go back.
If I charge it at home instead of at work I’d need to drive a very very short distance but again, I’d need to come back and get my car later after it’s charged.
I really don’t have time in my day to keep juggling this charging routine. I can barely keep up with just regular car maintenance which I don’t often do…
If I could charge at home it would be a whole different story, but most people here live in flats with 0 access to large parking garages let alone charging stations.
And yea agreed on the used market.
I kinda wish I had the means to buy one sometimes, but so many things would need to be right before that can happen that I don’t think it will happen in my lifetime :-)) :-/
Edit: oh and in rural areas just forget it lol, though I guess in that case I could install a charger at home which would solve A LOT of my gripes
Most West European countries have been at around 25-30% EV sales with remainder hybrids or ICE.
So up 50% implies up 12.5-15% of share of total volume (500k), so ICE is down by the same share. So about 60-75K fewer ICE out of the total 500k vehicles
Norway was already about 90% EV so the switching line is misleading there. EV / ICE shares were roughly static over last couple of years last I looked. Anyone in Norway still buying ICE must have a good reason given the incentives.
Edit just reread. 500k is total EVs sold for first quarter, so adjust above accordingly. So if 330k ish is normal pre Iran, then a million a quarter is total, etc etc
Okay but it doesn’t really matter how much EV sales are up. Tell me how much fossil fuel car sales are down.
as someone that could probably never use an EV for various reason and also hate them for various reasons, also tell me how down ICE car sales are down.
because I luv my ICE car, but boi do I hate the people that made it
What various reasons?
I cant use them because there’s 0 infrastructure here for them (eastern eu), I live in a flat so no garage with charger
And I hate them in general because they’re mostly tech with a giant cost instead of an affordable car. The ones that are affordable also usually come with terrible battery life or other super degraded basic features… At least from my knowledge so far
They’re also built very unethically in one way or another just like ICE cars…
All in all I’d rather buy a second hand car and line the pockets of a random dude than contribute to the car giants…
I see charging stations all over the map in Romania? But yeah, that’s understandable. Just unfortunate that it’s one of those supply/demand problem… no one would see the benefit of building a public charging station near their business if there’s not many people who’d use it.
If you’re looking at used cars, that can also contribute. There’s basically no service needed, so there’s not as many people like who try to time selling their ICE car before they might need to do some more expensive servicing. And those who are selling for affordable prices are often much older models -> worst technology.
But that’s all good points. Hopefully in 10 years the used electric market can become somewhat sustainable…
Without doxxing myself, the nearest charging station to my previous workplace is like 500 metrrs away. It’s only got 2 outlets too… Mostly used all the time with no gaps. It’s also dead in the middle of the busiest area.
The other one is about 1km away.
With charging it would double my time getting to work probably. I don’t think I can leave the car plugged in for 8 hours either… I’d have to get out of work, take my car off the charger then go back.
If I charge it at home instead of at work I’d need to drive a very very short distance but again, I’d need to come back and get my car later after it’s charged.
I really don’t have time in my day to keep juggling this charging routine. I can barely keep up with just regular car maintenance which I don’t often do…
If I could charge at home it would be a whole different story, but most people here live in flats with 0 access to large parking garages let alone charging stations.
And yea agreed on the used market.
I kinda wish I had the means to buy one sometimes, but so many things would need to be right before that can happen that I don’t think it will happen in my lifetime :-)) :-/
Edit: oh and in rural areas just forget it lol, though I guess in that case I could install a charger at home which would solve A LOT of my gripes
Most West European countries have been at around 25-30% EV sales with remainder hybrids or ICE.
So up 50% implies up 12.5-15% of share of total volume (500k), so ICE is down by the same share. So about 60-75K fewer ICE out of the total 500k vehicles
Norway was already about 90% EV so the switching line is misleading there. EV / ICE shares were roughly static over last couple of years last I looked. Anyone in Norway still buying ICE must have a good reason given the incentives.
Edit just reread. 500k is total EVs sold for first quarter, so adjust above accordingly. So if 330k ish is normal pre Iran, then a million a quarter is total, etc etc
Every time someone buys an BEV, that’s taken away from ICE cars.